09-21-2015, 02:58 PM
(09-21-2015, 02:21 PM)Diana Wrote: I interact a lot with wildlife. To minimize their suffering and pain, or resistance to death is wishful thinking. There may be a silent knowledge of, or an underlying connection to, the source of things. But that does not make them in this consciousness amenable to suffering or death. To think a deer who has been hunted and killed is okay with the situation, or a cow forced to live a suffering life so it can be meat for humans okay with its situation, is grasping at straws to justify the way we use animals in my opinion.
Do you not believe all consciousness creates its own reality? It's fine if you don't, I was just curious.
I don't think a hunted animal is okay with the situation. Obviously, they try to get away. But that is the nature of prey and predator. If they didn't want to play that game, I'm sure they wouldn't incarnate in the first place (or at least incarnate anywhere near humans). I don't like to lose at monopoly, but I still play it. Because it's fun to play when you win. I'm sure you'll think I'm trivializing the death of living things. And you would be right. Death is a part of life. And we only fear it because we don't understand it.
There will always be beings eating other beings. Life feeds on life. I wonder what you would say to a 3rd density race of purely carnivorous beings trying to polarize STO. I'm sure there is probably one out there in the universe somewhere.
I really liked this channeling by Abraham about eating animals:
(09-21-2015, 02:21 PM)Diana Wrote: Perhaps after this incarnation, one might see that one's suffering contributed to soul evolution. (But let's remember that this is a working theory only, in spite of what one feels is true. We are under the veil, and as such, cannot understand fully what is going on.) Perhaps an animal may have a degree of that knowing after death. But while it is here in this life, its suffering and death, as far as I can tell, is no less traumatic than ours might be. We just may have more drama and attachments to cling to.
Would anyone here think a mentally retarded person's suffering less than yours? I have worked with the mentally retarded (sorry if this isn't the currently politically correct label, but I can't recall the most recent one, maybe mentally challenged but that implies psychological imbalances and I am talking about IQ). I have been around "profoundly" retarded individuals, who were much like wild animals in behavior, with less mental capacity that monkeys or apes or many animals. I worked in a type of institution (which no longer exist) in vocational rehabilitation decades ago, where there were hundreds of these individuals. I would be curious to hear others' opinions on how they compare to animals in the context of perceiving suffering and connection to source.
A mentally retarded human is still 3rd density. I think their suffering is just different. I'm sure they still experience plenty of intense 3rd density catalyst. The pain of wanting to express themselves properly but not having the ability to do so. Then again, I think it is wholly possible that the profoundly retarded do not have as many filters to perceiving time/space. So maybe a slight lessening of the veil, but not enough to feel the light of the creator.