09-22-2015, 06:59 PM
(09-22-2015, 05:55 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: In bold, now you can maybe see the depth of sorrow and sadness many feel towards this planet, perceiving it in a view that is wholly the definition of Horror.
In underline, there are plants that move about, they are not immobile. The Source Field Studies by David Wilcock shows that Plant Life is aware and can not only feel pain, but feel and sense the pain of other living organisms. Each blade of grass is in a sense connected to the whole, as a forest is one entity once it's roots of each tree connect with the rest. If one part suffer, the entirety suffers.
I disagree. I also disagree with Wilcock's interpretation of the studies. Many 'spiritual' people use those plant studies to attempt to justify eating animals, and that's just absurd, because eating animals kills even MORE plants!
I don't think the whole planet is in agony. Well the planetary entity is surely suffering because of what humans have done, sucking out all her blood, poisoning her arteries, etc. but what I mean is, I don't think she is suffering simply by animals and humans walking on the grass or eating leaves. Mother Gaia feeds us, like suckling an infant, with her bounty: plants. This is the design. I don't believe this is any more painful for her than cutting our own hair or a fingernail is for us. Our hair is part of us, but Not individually sentient. Plant life is Mother Gaia's hair. Of course a signal is sent to her when humans wantonly destroy any life, including plants, but that is a group consciousness that is feeling the emotional pain and sorrow, Not an individual entity feeling physical pain like a cow feels getting her throat slit.
(09-22-2015, 05:55 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: To take from the parent body spells imminent death if treatment is not administered, such as returning the separated plant body back to another parent body, like the ground or a pot of soil. Sort of like an unborn human baby, except you can't disconnect those and keep them alive. (As far as I know...)
Apparently you have never had a garden...? One can tear off leaves from lettuces every day and the lettuce just keeps making more leaves. I have observed that the more leaves I harvest, the more my herb plants proliferate. Plant a cutting and it grows another plant. Plant life is different from animal life. Plants are early 2D...Not yet individuated. Even Ra acknowledges this. Individuation is the criteria for graduation to 3D...developed in late 2D.
One can't have it both ways. They can't, on the one hand, argue that it's ok to kill animals because they're just like plants, since they're still 2D, and don't have individual consciousness, and then, on the other hand, argue that plants have individual consciousness!!!
(09-22-2015, 05:55 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: So, honestly. Thank you. You have glimpsed my reality. The truth is suffering is prevalent.
Not sure what you mean by 'glimpsing your reality.' No, I don't think the whole planet is constantly suffering.
(09-22-2015, 05:55 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: Why rape? What if a soul desired the catalyst of rape? It needs to happen somehow. Another has to do it.
That is the task of STS entities, to administer such catalyst.
What is your point here? You seem to be saying "Go ahead and rape...because that woman desires that catalyst." Surely you aren't suggesting that, are you? Then why suggest it in the case of animals? "Go ahead and pay someone to torture and kill that cow, because the cow must desire that catalyst."
Why is it so hard to understand the difference between accepting that these things happen to others, vs actually DOING it ourselves?
(09-22-2015, 05:55 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: Suffering is one side of a multifaceted existence. But it is present on Earth enough so to be...Very sad. That is essentially the inherent unified good in the Service to Self Path offering catalyst to others, it is literally a Service to an-Other.
Yes, yes, yes, BUT do YOU want to BE that STS entity? THAT is the question!
See, my mistake, apparently, was in assuming that everyone here at B4 was aspiring to the STO path. This hasn't turned out to be true, apparently. These concepts are sooooo basic...IF one is STO oriented. I'm finding that I'm repeatedly being asked to explain the difference...to explain why it's Not cool to harm another entity.
WTF?
(09-22-2015, 05:55 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: Service to Others. Service to Self. It is all the same. There is no difference.
Right. No difference at all. So Ra just made all that stuff up...to entertain us?
Sorry, that was sarcastic. But seriously, how can you see they are the same, when Ra clearly differentiated them? WHY would Ra bother explaining about Choice and the paths if it didn't matter?
This is such a common misinterpretation of Ra's teachings: confusing late 6D 'beyond polarity' with 3D polarity.
(09-22-2015, 05:55 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: Those ratios, 51 to 95, are based on your intentions, in thought, word, and action. Not how well you perform your specific concept of each path, that's why outright murder is so intently service to self, and outright sacrifice is so intently service to other.
This seems to be a contradiction of what you just said about it all being the same. If it's all the same, then who cares? Go killing people and animals willy-nilly...it'll all come out in the wash.
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