10-07-2015, 04:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-07-2015, 04:19 PM by Kotalam.
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Hello Everyone,
I have been thinking lately about what is actually going on in individualized sense perception paired with conceptual frames of what is the self and other. That is a horribly vague sentence but I am having trouble giving words to what I am wondering about. I understand based on the Ra material that each of us is a mind/body/spirit complex (MBSC) and that as one emerges into greater realities that separate self begins to identify as a portion of a social memory complex. Then from there emerging into greater and greater awareness of the true self or as is described in various Hindu texts as the Atman.
I am curious what others think about what constitutes "you" given these various interpretations. It seems that the Ra material describes a MBSC as having elements functioning in on different planes of existence. Each of course has varying degrees of awareness and thus varying conceptualizations of what constitutes their personalized I-ness or me-ness. It also seems that on different levels, one can be aware of these "other" selves while simultaneously experiencing an individualized perception.
Does this mean there are other selves connected to us in higher planes that are existing separately and physically on other planets in 3rd density? For instance, I believe myself to be an individual. However, am I simply a fragment? If I were to have my awareness combined with say 100 other fragments then regains some lost sense or truer sense of self? I am finding it incredibly difficult to articulate this.
Say their are 100 3rd density beings in the milky way that are a portion of my I-ness or me-ness. They live on different planets and they have different personality traits. Each has their own individualized perception that this density manufactures for them. They would be in large part unaware of each other but intimately connected. I would not perceive them as "me" in this density. Nonetheless they could form the greater I-ness from a higher density, say 4th and up. If this is true than it means that I as an individual could be a fragment experiencing the illusion rather than a whole being. While "whole being" is a bit of a misnomer. None of us, or maybe most of us rather, in effect are truly whole beings anyway. I am just trying to understand relatively how the interconnection functions for individual awareness or individual beings currently bound to 3rd density. It seems that anyone who is truly a wanderer would have a more fully developed and integrated self. A wanderer could possibly lack that fragmentary nature and actually be more "whole" relatively thinking. Meaning they may not have other 3rd density selves on their own or other planets that are part of a higher density conceptualization of MBSC.
I understand that Social/Memory Complexes are a order of magnitude beyond this even. I recognize also I may be confusing MBSC and social memory complex. However, it was my understanding that a social memory complex was more akin to the meta-self of an entire species or civilization as opposed to the possibility of being a fragmented self as part of a larger conception of MBSC. Is the MBSC totally contained within a single 3rd density human with no correlates on this planet or other planets in 3rd density? I am just trying to nail the idea down so I have a better understanding of this material. I am sorry if my writing is not clear enough. I still feel like I am not completely asking what I want to in the way I want to.
How does one know if they are in fact a wanderer or a native? What constitutes this localized illusory self I call "I"? For a wanderer would it simple be what is bound in on this planet? Could a native actually be a more diluted self? I am not asking this to drive some sort of hierarchy of what is better or worse. Just exploring. Once again I apologize for the disorganized nature of this post. I recognize I asked a lot of questions. I am having difficulty articulating it. How does one know if they are a wanderer or a native? Could I have other 3rd density selves on other planets? That only become part of my sense of self in higher densities perhaps? Any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your effort.
I have been thinking lately about what is actually going on in individualized sense perception paired with conceptual frames of what is the self and other. That is a horribly vague sentence but I am having trouble giving words to what I am wondering about. I understand based on the Ra material that each of us is a mind/body/spirit complex (MBSC) and that as one emerges into greater realities that separate self begins to identify as a portion of a social memory complex. Then from there emerging into greater and greater awareness of the true self or as is described in various Hindu texts as the Atman.
I am curious what others think about what constitutes "you" given these various interpretations. It seems that the Ra material describes a MBSC as having elements functioning in on different planes of existence. Each of course has varying degrees of awareness and thus varying conceptualizations of what constitutes their personalized I-ness or me-ness. It also seems that on different levels, one can be aware of these "other" selves while simultaneously experiencing an individualized perception.
Does this mean there are other selves connected to us in higher planes that are existing separately and physically on other planets in 3rd density? For instance, I believe myself to be an individual. However, am I simply a fragment? If I were to have my awareness combined with say 100 other fragments then regains some lost sense or truer sense of self? I am finding it incredibly difficult to articulate this.
Say their are 100 3rd density beings in the milky way that are a portion of my I-ness or me-ness. They live on different planets and they have different personality traits. Each has their own individualized perception that this density manufactures for them. They would be in large part unaware of each other but intimately connected. I would not perceive them as "me" in this density. Nonetheless they could form the greater I-ness from a higher density, say 4th and up. If this is true than it means that I as an individual could be a fragment experiencing the illusion rather than a whole being. While "whole being" is a bit of a misnomer. None of us, or maybe most of us rather, in effect are truly whole beings anyway. I am just trying to understand relatively how the interconnection functions for individual awareness or individual beings currently bound to 3rd density. It seems that anyone who is truly a wanderer would have a more fully developed and integrated self. A wanderer could possibly lack that fragmentary nature and actually be more "whole" relatively thinking. Meaning they may not have other 3rd density selves on their own or other planets that are part of a higher density conceptualization of MBSC.
I understand that Social/Memory Complexes are a order of magnitude beyond this even. I recognize also I may be confusing MBSC and social memory complex. However, it was my understanding that a social memory complex was more akin to the meta-self of an entire species or civilization as opposed to the possibility of being a fragmented self as part of a larger conception of MBSC. Is the MBSC totally contained within a single 3rd density human with no correlates on this planet or other planets in 3rd density? I am just trying to nail the idea down so I have a better understanding of this material. I am sorry if my writing is not clear enough. I still feel like I am not completely asking what I want to in the way I want to.
How does one know if they are in fact a wanderer or a native? What constitutes this localized illusory self I call "I"? For a wanderer would it simple be what is bound in on this planet? Could a native actually be a more diluted self? I am not asking this to drive some sort of hierarchy of what is better or worse. Just exploring. Once again I apologize for the disorganized nature of this post. I recognize I asked a lot of questions. I am having difficulty articulating it. How does one know if they are a wanderer or a native? Could I have other 3rd density selves on other planets? That only become part of my sense of self in higher densities perhaps? Any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your effort.