(09-15-2010, 06:04 PM)Quantum Wrote: It might be argued that to date that more people have been harvested through the paths of religion than have any other path in our history. Wouldn't all agree?
Not necessarily. Although many who followed a religion have undoubtedly been harvested, it is debatable as to whether it was because of their religious choice or despite it.
(09-15-2010, 06:04 PM)Quantum Wrote: This is why Avatars such as Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad, Moses, Zoroaster (aka Zarathustra) et al, etc etc, have incarnated and were religious teachers and scholars. Isn't it curious that they have all been religious teachers?
I don't think any of those avatars were religious teachers. I consider them spiritual teachers. The religions (containing rigid, religious dogma) were started by their followers, who mistakenly attempted to turn their teachings into dogma, thereby distorting and corrupting the original teachings.
(09-15-2010, 06:04 PM)Quantum Wrote:Monica Wrote:The very concept of atonement is one such religious dogma. STS entities serve the Creator too, so why would they need to 'atone' for their service?The words atonement, penitence, recompense are the only ones we may utilize as part of that consideration in 3D language, less we simply agree that nothing at all is required, in spite of everything to the contrary that so much has been required thus far of us to even get to 3D, much less as much or more to 4D.
The STS entities have been serving the Creator all along. If anything, their path has been more difficult than ours. We cannot begin to imagine what their path is like. It may appear peachy to us in this density, but we really don't know what it's like from their perspective.
Might I suggest using terms that convey the learning of lessons, rather than the paying of a penance for past 'sins' which tends to conjure religious connotations.
(09-15-2010, 07:13 PM)Lavazza Wrote: I guess what I was trying to say was that attempting to reconcile certain (distorted) religious ideas with what we can basically agree are less distorted ideas (the Law of One material), you're going to run in to serious, irreconcilable problems along the way. When this happens, it would be my course of action to decide which version of the truth you feel is least distorted and go with that, leaving the other behind.
Well said!