11-06-2015, 01:47 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-06-2015, 01:52 AM by indolering.)
(11-05-2015, 11:56 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:(11-05-2015, 10:56 PM)indolering Wrote:(11-05-2015, 10:06 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote: Why I am not a vegan : Because I do not believe I should feel guilt nor shame about it. Because if the essence of my being had thought it was not good, then I would have programmed myself to have a repulsion of it, which I did not. Because I have faith that ultimately all of my actions are emerging from Love and Light and that all I do will always be guided toward what is best.
I have rationalized this faith into words at different occassions, but that was unnecessary to myself.
If you feel no guilt or shame, I suspect that you lack a proper amount of empathy and that you have not delved into the process of animal slaughter in any deep fashion.
You are right that I have in a general sense a low-medium degree of empathy and do use means to keep it that way for the time it is needed as part of my experience, although I've experienced at various occasions a much higher level of empathy in which I was easily disturbed by many things. But the feelings were processed through wisdom and distilled in an understanding of the love behind what had disturbed me.
Yet if the earth was populated by the version of myself that I am, then this would be a vegetarian world. Well initially I guess, hard to know what many versions of myself would do together. Just like our current mutual experience, which is akin to that, is full of surprises.
(11-05-2015, 10:56 PM)indolering Wrote: The essence of your being does not think - it knows. Only the mind thinks. And it is precisely the mind which needs purification the most in order for us to develop our spiritual awareness.
I suspect that you have programmed yourself very little - most of our programming comes from without, consciously or unconsciously.
Oh trust me, I have programmed myself quite a maze to be within. I correct what I have said to use your way of terming things, the essence of my soul knows.
(11-05-2015, 10:56 PM)indolering Wrote: Your faith in your actions as emerging from Love and Light is misplaced, and again I would say that you have but little researched the subject and your empathy has been stunted.
I can only tell you that your lack of faith in this Creation is misplaced, and again I would say that you have but little researched the love behind it all.
(11-05-2015, 10:56 PM)indolering Wrote: I'm sure you'll disagree with my diagnosis, but aside from my training in psychology, I have gone through what all of us must in order to realize that all life is sacred, and that the Love/Light which I call the Creator has provided us with all things which precludes the necessity to perpetuate animal cruelty. Many people have rationalized that plants are living creatures also - very true. But the plant phylum has the unique function of providing nourishment for animals besides its many other important functions.
I'm not judging you. We all have to go through these things at one time or another. I'm sure that you too will ultimately see the truth of my words.
I also am sure that you too will ultimately see the truth of my words, as in the end all things can only be seen as always have been unity when all the paradoxes we expose ourselves to will have been solved in our awareness.
I do agree that life is sacred, but I would bring that even further and say that all experiences are sacred. Yeah.. even those you disagree with.
I won't take the time and energy to comment on your entire post, but I'll say this about your final statement:
All experiences are not sacred - some may be divinely inspired, and some are necessary for one's understanding.