Why I am not a vegan

[Monica]

The Creator wants to know Itself, your rejection of others is nothing than not wanting to know yourself.

You seem to be confusing rejection of others with declining their service while loving them (as given in the example by Ra).

None of you here has put any effort in understanding how another could balance within itself love and wisdom in regard to meat eating and still eat meat.

Not true. The effort has been made.

Perhaps it's just not the conclusion you may have liked.

All I've seen is constant rejection of what is unlike yourself,

Seriously??? You're still saying that? As though we hadn't already covered that numerous times?

Why do you repeat the same obvious twisting and corruption of what has already been clearly expressed? We have made it abundantly clear that we are answering the call of the oppressed and it has nothing to do with 'rejecting those who are different'. So why do you say that?

I mainly participated in these discussions because you expressed a desire to understand what was unlike yourself to most times realize it was not so. You do not in any way wish to understand the inner truth of others if it is in conflict with your own.

So now you presume to know the motivation of another person, eh?

Yet I have never felt I have infriged upon free will by eating meat. As I said multiple times I eat meat (which is not a 2D entity anymore and has it's own set of experience and desire) and threat it as what it is at the moment. I would not want to create this system nor do I want to reject what already is.

How convenient. You are leaving out the minor little detail that someone had to kill the animal before you could get that meat, and just because you didn't kill the animal yourself, doesn't mean it didn't happen. By buying that meat, the consumer is tangibly, directly supporting the industry that tortures and slaughters billions of sentient beings every year. Billions.

My understanding of your words is that these facts don't bother you.

Why, then, are you still participating in this conversation?

Then all I know is the inner truth I found within myself. Where most of you found despair I found love and light.

Well that's very nice but it's still self-oriented.

In my view you are very delusionned (just as you think I am), you've stated wanting to share your way of thinking with our Logos, which somehow implies It would not be already aware of your every thought and emotion, and that It would even be less aware than you are of the on-going suffering which It probably feels altogether unlike you. Also seems to imply you would be more loving than our Logos, which I find laughable.

Think (and laugh) all you want. I happen to believe that each of us is important, and we came here with a mission to accomplish. We aren't separate from the Logos and our experiences are important.

To say on the one hand "We are all One...we are the Creator...the Creator is experiencing these things through us in order to understand itself better" then turn around and say "Who are you to think you could possibly tell the Logos anything?? The Logos already knows everything!" makes No sense.

Either the Logos (or Creator) already knows everything and doesn't need us, or it is experiencing through us and welcomes our feedback. Pick one. But to say both is a contradiction.

For your example I would need to have a desire to rape which then would attract the right person to share the experience. Everything that happens is nothing more than resonance.

You have missed the point of the analogy, which was that saying it's ok to eat meat just because the animals chose it on some level, is akin to saying it's ok to rape someone just because their Higher Self chose it. It doesn't hold up.

Anyway, since you've told us that you do eat meat, then apparently you do have a desire to eat meat, and have attracted the right circumstances to share that experience.

Yet you still continue to miss the obvious point that you can't have meat without participating in or supporting the imposing on the animal's free will wish to survive, and ending that animal's life against his/her will.

That is inescapable, no matter how you slice it. You can try to justify it all you want, but those are inescapable facts.

I also have stated that my ways of eating meat only give a little support to these indrustries

Only a little? How many animals per year is that? and how is it justifiable to kill even 1 sentient being unnecessarily?

We don't have a choice about whether or not to pay taxes, short of going to prison, which would obviously be counterproductive. We DO have a choice about what we eat.

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