(11-09-2015, 05:21 PM)Aion Wrote: Those I mentioned at one point included myself, so yes, you were talking about me even though you did not know that. You have not said it, but you have heavily implied that I am brainwashed. There is no point in me responding, you're just going to twist my views in to your own argument again anyways.
This is unfair and untrue, in my opinion.
(11-09-2015, 05:21 PM)Aion Wrote: I genuinely do not see 'right' and 'wrong'. Good and evil are completely relative ideas in my mind. I see creation, destruction, feeding and devouring. I see systems of dynamic, of movement and exchange. Rest assured, you are not the first one to be appalled by the expression of my viewpoint.
There are actions and consequences, but I do not believe in any spiritual judgement.
Everyone here is unique; you are not the only one. I would venture to say that most here are outside the "norm." If you feel misunderstood, then I suggest you try harder to communicate and listen. This is not a judgment on you; it's simply what I do when faced with an impasse—I take the responsibility to make myself clear, if I can.
I also would be surprised that anyone here believes in spiritual judgment. I would guess that members here are advanced enough to at least intellectually not want to judge.
There seems to be such confusion around the issue of judgment here. Because I stand up in conversations for the rights of animals does not mean I judge anyone—it just means I'm standing up for the rights of animals. If I say that eating meat contributes to the suffering of animals, it is a fact (or can be argued that it is a fact and that's how I personally see it), and it is not a judgment. These are two separate things. Saying these things may imply that those who eat meat are x, y, z; but that is putting more into than intended. This conversation does not have to be about any "meat-eater," rather, it is about ending the suffering of animals.