11-10-2015, 01:22 PM
(11-10-2015, 12:50 PM)anagogy Wrote: Hypothetically speaking, let's say you're right. You're just proving that even that experience has value to those 2nd density animals, because it is helping to raise their consciousness. This goes back to one of my earlier points: more bodies equals more experience for their animal group consciousness, and thus, faster evolution. If there are less bodies to incarnate into, there is slower evolution. One could even draw a parallel between the preveil conditions of humans, and these factory farms. Preveil was nice, and idyllic and there was little to no suffering, but spiritual evolution was SLOW. So slow in fact, that the Logos decided to cut us off from our source with the veil because even though it was less pleasant, it *aided* evolution.
It never ceases to amaze me the lengths B4 members will go to justify the needless torture and killing of animals.
Many people are compassionate, but tend to only have an open heart for their families and close friends. I wonder how those with opinions like the above would feel if they actually interacted with wildlife like I do. Almost every day I have deer in my yard. The deer have distinct personalities. They look me in the eye and they communicate in various ways. I try not to worry during hunting season that one of the herd, most of whom I have known for 6 years and seen their babies grow up, will get killed.
I have always abhorred killing anything, but my awareness had to reach a certain expansion before I realized that even spiders and cockroaches also deserved to live—I never killed them but let others do so. This is analogous to meat-eaters who don't do the killing. I expect as awareness grows, if my example means anything, those who consume animal products may reach a place in their hearts where they don't want to contribute anymore to needless torture and killing. Perhaps I'm wrong, and 3D earth will stay in this predator/prey phase. But I envision something less cruel and more evolved. It is not necessary to evolve through suffering, as everyone will know from canvassing their own lives, it's just an effective "kick in the butt" way for beings who are basically lazy and don't like change (this includes all animals and humans).
I will beat you to the punch ETM and say that I understand the concept of "everything is perfect as it is," but I think this idea is highly misunderstood and used in distorted ways. Things may be perfect in that everything is unfolding as it is, in other words, it just is, in a cosmic soup of everything. But the trajectory of that unfolding is based on decisions. I don't think it's just a soup where everything is willy-nilly and we are pawns to do just anything because it's there to do. I think we are all creators as well, and that means what we choose to do is key to that unfolding.