Why I am not a vegan

[Diana]

It never ceases to amaze me the lengths B4 members will go to justify the needless torture and killing of animals. 

And it never ceases to amaze me the lengths some people will go to to avoid accepting things as they are.

This is taken out of context with the rest of my post. I addressed what I thought about the way things are. It's more complex, in my opinion, than just saying to accept things the way they are.

The ugly only stops being ugly when you stop seeing it as ugly.

I agree with you here. But again, it is complex. There may be a perspective in higher dimensions, where one can see how soul choices are played out and souls evolve (and let's remember that we can only speculate here about the soul choices of animals unless one of us is some kind of advanced living master), where the beauty of factory farms can be comprehended.

Where does choice come into this for you? On what basis do you make choices?

I'm reminded of an applicable Ra quote: "Healing occurs when a mind/body/spirit complex realizes, deep within itself, the Law of One; that is, that there is no disharmony, no imperfection; that all is complete and whole and perfect. Thus, the intelligent infinity within this mind/body/spirit complex re-forms the illusion of body, mind, or spirit to a form congruent with the Law of One."

The is a basic idea. One must first stop resisting what is, then proceed. But there is a distinction here at B4 that I think is being missed. Let me try to articulate it.

I personally don't resist anything that is going on here. I have already accepted 3D as it is. But that does not mean I am going to 1) be OF this place, or 2) participate in unnecessary cruelty just because that's what's done here. I think the confusion comes into this because members like myself are here discussing these ideas with (presumably) others who are open-minded enough to talk about them, and this comes across as trying to change what is. What is, is. But we are still creators ourselves. So do we just perpetuate what is (easy, do nothing new because it's all perfect) or do we create something new? No right or wrong. Just a choice.

I've said it before and I will say it again:

a) We create our own reality.

b) We didn't come to fix a broken world.

I have addressed these 2 in the paragraph above.

c) Beings know exactly what they have in store for them prior to incarnating.

You seem very sure, like this is a fact. This is a working theory only. It may sound correct, but as we are capable of holding more information, perceptions change. Even Ra did not know anything beyond a certain point in evolution of souls.

d) Resonating with what you perceive to be misery creates more of it, not less.

I agree. But that is not what is happening here. This is partly semantic, because I could say that you are resonating with misery by consuming it. I don't resonate with misery. But I do have empathy. I am not advanced enough to see a calf torn from its mother, put in a pen so small it can't move, alone for its lifetime, force-fed, plied with antibiotics and growth hormones, crying and in misery, then taken to slaughter where its pitiable life is ended in more cruelty, so humans can have veal, and not think that is unnecessary cruelty. (Let's add here that humans can survive without animal products, whether they want to or not.)

We are just talking here about what concerns us within a spiritual context, primarily the Ra Material. Perhaps I make the mistake that I have friends here who will understand that it's a relief to be able to articulate the way I feel for the reasons I do. I have spent my life with all this stuff almost exclusively in my head.