09-17-2010, 05:07 PM
(09-17-2010, 02:57 PM)unity100 Wrote:(09-17-2010, 02:50 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(09-17-2010, 02:28 PM)unity100 Wrote: buddha didnt found anything. the only person who founded a religion, brought out rules, and ordered people around, is mohammad in those examples.
Did Buddha write anything?
i do not think writing anything, some methods, some thoughts or some basic thinking would constitute founding a religion even if he did.
Just google it you two

Christianity is the adopting of christ consciousness. It is the core that was heavily distorted over the years mostly due to extreme politics. But inside cloisters and monasteries the christ consciousness was passed on. Many reached sainthood. Even today this happens. But not everywhere. The vatican was probably one of the first places where the flame died to succumb to politics.
I think you guys see religion as merely a structure in spite of which enlightenment is a possibility. I see it as a lineage of consciousness. Just like every religion I studied so far turned out to be. These things are alive. They will set you on fire if you let them. And you don't even have to become a member to have that happen. It's factual, I've had spiritual experiences in different religious surroundings. And I witnessed the people with me experience the same.
You don't need to be in a religion to ignite yourself.. Certainly not these days. But it is a possibility and I am a product.
Everyone used to use this technique, all religions have this sense of spiritual heritage. Keeping the flame alive and passing her down through history. People these days accept it with ease from pagan religions, from buddhism, hinduism, practically all occult traditions. But christianity for unclear reasons is different, it is just an empty shell of rules and has nothing to do with these teachings... This is true even to many followers. We cannot imagine our parents and grandparents and uncle bob to be members of an initiatory tradition. But they are if we look at the evidence.
Not only does the church use the exact same form of rituals in their own initiations. They follow the exact same structure as any other tradition. I could walk you through the cathedrals here in europe and point out the occult meanings. If you are like most you don't see it until it's explained that's why it's called occultism. The papal line is a line of initiation, just like the pharaoic tradition every next pope was given the "papal-consciousness" whatever they call it by the previous one.. Signified by the transfer of a hat buddhism does it the same way. Obviously for them the flame got extinct along the way and people failed to notice. But at the same time there are people inside the church, young people old people who just like you and me here are trying to find the right path to achieve this 4d consciousness that they call communion, and in their world 2012 is called rapture, the returning of christ, the MASSIVE returning of christ consciousness!
I cannot look at these similarities and then claim that they are somehow different. I know that most of what passes for "those big three" these days is rubble and ruins compared to what it still is in some places. Most religions really are no different. And in part this is good, this is the time of loss of structure. These structures are not required for people to reach enlightenment any more.. Some claim they once used to be, that may be true, but they clearly are not now. And we should form a new relationship to them. A more empowering one.
When I was 16 I had access to world wide communication for the first time... My first fidonet found buddy was a Singapore boy my age. He expressed his utter amazement for the compassion and love of Christianity. His buddhist parents would never be this enlightened... Of course we here think the exact opposite is true! I learned that the religion is always better on the other side of the globe.
It may sound terrible that the Law of One may one day become a religion. But be honest, it is as important to you as a religion could be. It is to me. The Law of One taught me extremely much. I would not be at the level I am today without it. It doesn't have thousands of years of peer pressure on it, and we can actually identify with the people who helped pull it unto the earth plane, it's still pure and awesome. But do you remember the first time? When Ra worship reached the level of involuntary monotheism? He was already gone at that point of course.
Take religion from it's base as infallible, see it as a flawed human institution built around the initiatory transfer of knowledge and consciousness. And you're just about spot on. Good and bad things happen there. Absolute sweeping generalizations really never do justice to reality. I acknowledge your feelings that religion in many places has become empty, and restrictive, sometimes even evil. Please acknowledge mine that there are also still places where christ consciousness is alive. That's obviously the part I care about, the structure and empty rules can collapse for all I care.
I met this woman, a catholic school teacher, exactly like you'd expect from the description. But her aura is shouting priestess. And she's demonstrating priestess qualities. She's no less than any of us. She knows christ I am absolutely convinced of this. And after she went for a few days with her group and I saw her again her consciousness had actually expanded and slowly went back to normal a week after. That's the same pattern I've seen in every religion including Sufism, my own.
The christian church I was raised in most certainly did not have that.