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    Thread: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic


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    12-06-2015, 10:12 AM
    Quote:1. I'd be interested in your thoughts on how the actual mechanics of seeking operate.

    2. That is, what does it mean to focus the mind on a particular end (seeking/tuning/questing), and how/why does it generate a response either internally or externally.

    Thanks for the questions -- are you a Virgo by any chance? Very Virgoic which can be balanced by Piscean contemplation of the above Seeker exercises.

    This first part I can touch on using a more or less straightforward metaphysical approach. The second part goes to a more psychological and subjective and phenomenological approach that should have its roots in the first part material.

    Part 1

    I'd be interested in your thoughts on how the actual mechanics of seeking operate.

    This is a large question in that it asks:
    How does the One Infinite Seeker go about seeking Itself? What is the process? 
    How does It use desire and will in this process? 
    And what are the mechanics or stages of the causal chain that make up this process?

    Here's my attempt of a roughly constructed theory that relates Aristotle's Four Causes with the mythos-topos-logos model or MTL complex model.
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    Question
    What causes the One Infinite Seeker to have the desire and will to seek?

    Answer
    The initial/final cause that feels an unknown purpose and goal to aspire towards -- there must be a purpose or goal even though unsure of the meaning or outcome -- the mystery provides a seed of desire and will -- this cause is directed via the logos or spirit.

    Question
    What causes the One Infinite Seeker to act on the desire and will to seek?

    Answer
    The formal cause of being motivated through ideation or envisioning of the form of the purpose or goal -- there are possible archetypal forms and structures to provide a semantics or meaning to focus desire and will -- the template of the design and function of a Universe -- this cause is directed via the mythos or mind.

    Question
    What causes the One Infinite Seeker to fulfill the desired and willed actions of seeking to then reach the goal of the initial/final cause?

    Answer
    The material cause that is the matrix or setting to undergo the action of seeking -- the physical and transphysical substance of a Universe -- this cause is via the static mode of the topos or body.

    The efficient cause that is the potentiator or mover to propel and guide the action of seeking -- the causal laws of motion and action of a Universe -- this allows for evolution or Lovela interplay -- this cause is via the dynamic mode of the topos or body.
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    Part 2

    What does it mean to focus the mind on a particular end (seeking/tuning/questing), and how/why does it generate a response either internally or externally.

    Rephrasing -- What does it mean, in the subjective sense, to focus the mind on a purpose or goal? And how and why does this act of focusing generate a subjective response that is felt internally and expressed externally?

    I'm "perklept!" with this set of Virgoic questions but will try to fashion an answer.

    In Part 1 you can replace "a Universe" with any MTL complex such as a galaxy or a star or an MBS complex of 3D, 4D, 5D, 6D etc.  And no doubt these MTL complexes will seek at different levels and in different ways, but hopefully the basic theoretical approach of Part 1 still holds.

    For an MBS complex of 3D, 4D, 5D, 6D etc the intersubjective nature of phenomenology asks "what does the experience mean to me?" The Ra group makes this a point when contemplating the Tarot Archetypes.

    So, what does focussing my mind on a purpose or goal mean to me? Does it give me a sense of purpose and of identity with that purpose? 

    Can I know more about myself and of the Universe through making this effort to focus on this purpose or goal? Do I feel more of a part of the Universe or of my true essence -- my totality self?

    Does my intersubjective connection with the Universe allow for internal feeling and external expression that is somehow predetermined or predestined by way of the initial/final cause? Am I a self-causal being with free will to seek any and all possible expressions of an Infinite Seeker?

    I'm still "perklept!" and yield to the following archetypal notions of Prime Mover or Leader which may help in the sense of a prescriptive answer with Piscean imagination and contemplation.

    I greet you with the motivation and intent of the One Infinite Prime Mover.
    I am a co-Prime Mover. You are a co-Prime Mover. We are all co-Prime Movers.

    I greet you with the motivation and intent of the One Infinite Leader
    I am a co-Leader. You are a co-Leader. We are all co-Leaders.

    I think some study and discussion of intersubjectivity and phenomenology will be done in later posts of this thread. It is actually a more developed form of new age philosophy which is needed in this post-new age era (approx 1970-2012) that is now 4D.
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    The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by 4Dsunrise - 11-17-2015, 01:59 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by 4Dsunrise - 11-20-2015, 07:06 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by Minyatur - 11-20-2015, 07:19 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by Nicholas - 11-20-2015, 07:28 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by 4Dsunrise - 11-22-2015, 02:47 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by 4Dsunrise - 11-29-2015, 06:11 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by Plenum - 12-05-2015, 11:06 AM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by 4Dsunrise - 12-05-2015, 06:35 AM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by 4Dsunrise - 12-06-2015, 10:12 AM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by Plenum - 12-06-2015, 10:49 AM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by AnthroHeart - 12-06-2015, 05:48 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by anagogy - 12-06-2015, 08:25 PM
    RE: The Creator/Explorer Dynamic - by 4Dsunrise - 12-13-2015, 08:23 AM

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