Questions regarding the LOO, STS and Religions

[Ali Quadir]

you are classifying it wrongly.

Or you

buddhist organization is a highly organized hierarchy. but, buddhist organizations do not mandate or demand from their believers anything. they dont force you to be buddhist, they dont prevent you from quitting it, they dont even force any other rules to you.

Neither does the vatican offcourse, they just have a lot to say about it. Incidentally just like some of the buddhist organizations. The stupid thing in both circumstances are that people listen to both the right things and the wrong things these people say.

buddhist monk organization is like an adept training organization. one may remember the school of life and school of death in egypt, which taught respectively in matters regarding life (medicine, engineering etc) and ethereal (philosophy, afterlife etc). ie, something similar to what adepts and priests were probably teaching immediately after Ra have done their egypt effort. they teach a certain refined method of their own devising. they dont claim the only path forward, they dont forbid anything else, they dont prevent you from leaving or joining, they dont even ask of you anything from you in your daily actions. its spiritual, and for inner world.

And they do great work.. Yet they had their versions of control.

The Sakya school ruled tibet before the chinese invaded. Without making any apologies for the chinese, they should give the people of tibet freedom. But the Sakya school was not an enlightened doctrine at that time. They gouched out eyes and cut of hands as judicial punishment until the beginning of the 20th century. Around the time the chinese showed up they still flogged people on a regular basis. In the US they had only stopped doing it to prisoners for a few decades by then. Poverty was so severe that everyone was essentially a slave.

The chinese have blown this up and use this to their advantage. But it is not made up. Most lies are exaggerations of truth.

You only know the good side of Buddhist history. You essentially tell me rational reasons why it shouldn't be like this. And I would love to agree. But rationality and reality often diverge. If it looks simple you're probably deceiving yourself at least that's what I always tell myself.

It's all people. Seeing one group as more enlightened than others is part of the 3d illusion. We have to learn to see beyond it to see humanity stripped of it's archetypes, as she is.

muslim religion doesnt teach peace by the way. the only peace that can happen, is when all the world becomes muslim, by conquest or conversion, any non muslim gets subdued and pays tribute. and this is written in stone in koran, so it is almost impossible to reform, as the egyptian reformers have found out in person.

There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in the Shaitan and believes in Allah he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.

Also
http://www.myfaithmyvoice.com/


I want to remind you that this is not this religion versus that religion. This is me filling you in in some of the dark spots of your awareness of Buddhist history simply because you chose them as an example of perfection.

I don't want to give Buddhists a bad name. They don't deserve it. In spite of their troubles they are in great shape today. I'm simply adding context to reveal a bigger much more complicated picture.

Some of the best people I know are Buddhists, and I have studied it as part of my own evolution. There was a time I felt Buddhism could be for me. I have had that experience with many religions. Until I discovered I just had to study them all. Buddhism is a treasure trove of positive teachings and great wisdom. Today it is one of the most accessible and open religions of the world. The work these folks are doing for global consciousness is amazing.

But we should realize that everyone is human. And in the end that's the weak spot, we are not perfect when we compare ourselves to true love great wisdom and compassion..