12-18-2015, 03:23 PM
(12-18-2015, 03:02 PM)matrix_drumr Wrote: Some have too much to deal with themselves to deal with animals. And some have too much to deal with animals to deal with themselves.
That's a very good way to frame the debate as a whole. It seems totally nonsensical to empathise with someone who is clearly contributing towards harm, yet that seems to be the key to understanding.