12-19-2015, 05:13 AM
(12-19-2015, 03:59 AM)Aion Wrote:(12-18-2015, 02:37 PM)Nicholas Wrote:(12-17-2015, 06:38 PM)matrix_drumr Wrote: Such deep level of sarcasm. Much suffering I sense here excluding the suffering of animals.
You have also sensed it. The heart of the matter for me is why are soo many individuals not ready to become vegan? I think the healing of an incarnation is too easily brushed aside, and too easily not brought into consideration during the discussion of such personal matters, such as this one.
Personally I think this way of thinking is... I'm not quite sure, evangelistic?
If I was to alter your sentence here slightly - "The heart of the matter for me is why are soo many individuals not ready to become [Christian/Buddhist/Muslim/etc]?"
Now I'm sure it will be said that this discussion is totally different from religion but I don't think it is. It is an ideology based on a philosophy which often ties back to morals or logic. It is an attempt to alter or choose one's behaviours to be more in alignment with the fundamental philosophy one has. Therefore, however, its success is founded upon that foundation of philosophy.
In other words I think if someone ate vegan but hated every moment of it they would probably become very unhealthy, maybe much worse than otherwise. Unless, perhaps, they have absolute faith that it works regardless of any enjoyment.
I firmly believe in what you just said.
I came across this today and I think it pretty much says the same thing as you do. It's a post on keenu reeves FB page. I'll just copy paste:
"My friend's mom has eaten healthy all her life. Never ever consumed alcohol or any "bad" food, exercised every day, very limber, very active, took all supplements suggested by her doctor, never went in the sun without sunscreen and when she did it was for as short a period as possible- so pretty much she protected her health with the utmost that anyone could. She is now 76 and has skin cancer, bone marrow cancer and extreme osteoporosis.
My friend's father eats bacon on top of bacon, butter on top of butter, fat on top of fat, never and I mean never exercised, was out in the sun burnt to a crisp every summer, he basically took the approach to live life to his fullest and not as others suggest. He is 81 and the doctors says his health is that of a young person.
People you cannot hide from your poison. It's out there and it will find you so in the words of my friend's still living mother: " if I would have known my life would end this way I would have lived it more to the fullest enjoying everything I was told not to!"
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Eat the delicious food. Walk in the sunshine. Jump in the ocean. Say the truth that you’re carrying in your heart like hidden treasure. Be silly. Be kind. Be weird. There’s no time for anything else."