12-22-2015, 04:54 PM
First of all I'm not a troll. Secondly I apologize if I do not express myself well. Communication is not my strong point. I will make a really strong effort here. But I really feel like you don't understand what I'm saying. Trying to teach to people who want to stop harming animals how to do it is a great thing and I love you for doing that. I'm not saying you have no compassion at all or that wanting to help animals is unjustified. I'm not arguing over how good or bad is it to eat meat. That is in fact long overdue and cannot convince everybody anyway. I'm only specificly refering to the duality meat eaters/vegan of the thread. So in a sense I'm not talking about the subject of the thread I'm talking about the thread itself.
My concern is about how I feel you see those who eat meat that aren't normal people that are unaware of what they do. I just would like you to realize that real compassion must encompass all things and that having criticism over meat eaters is having criticism for yourself. You cannot eat meat and look at yourself in the mirror and that's okay as it is done in love. But you cannot expect others to judge themselves as roughly as you would do in their situation. Because if you were them you would not be you as them you would be them. Them as a whole. But you are not them and there is infinite reasons to do any actions which doesn't make them bad by default because you would judge yourself as bad doing it. All people do is what they can. You can say they don't do what they can for animals but they are doing what they can for other things. We can't all save earth by ourselves and some people(a lot actually) sacrifice their food intake's quality for the sake of what they do in their day. Would you judge them as bad if their day consist also of saving people. I'm sure a lot of people's lives involve saving people and eating meat. How bad are they on your scale of good/bad?
That doesn't mean you should stop doing what you do. That means you would actually be far more successful at what you do if you'd look at meat eaters with the same loving eyes you do with animals. Those people would then be magnetized to your love instead of feeling rejected. The problem I see about your message is not in the intent which is lovely but in the victimization and in the seperation it promotes throughout many and many posts. Don't feel theaten by my post. Just would you agree this thread has created one of the most seperation on the entire forum? It can't just be meat eater's fault. I mean I could come here and tell you eating meat is good. But what would be the point, there have been infinite arguments over it before and I'm not sitting at the right place to tell people what to eat. I'm just stoping by and I'm observing a huge gap of intentional incomprehension from both sides to the other.
Why would you say this happen if the compassion it/you/we/them/us/one have is true and whole. We are on a forum that preach oneness and yet this thread is the only thread who fails miserably at reaching it. My intent would be that this thread reach it's oneness because that oneness exist. Even after 45 pages I believe so. I really hope your answer will not be stop eating meat and we will be one because that is not the point at all. It is about understanding that by fighting something you create it. By teaching people how to not harm animals you heal it. But by fighting meat eaters you create meat eaters. Meat eaters doesn't exist without that seperation. There is only people. I am not a vegan but I don't crave for meat and would not kill an animal. I simply have the most respect for their sacrifice instead of seeing their experience as a waste. I understand that without meat eating humans would not have survived in nothern regions of the world ever and I respect the process. Only if you see people as vegan/meat eaters only you reinforce that duality once again creating more meat eating. In a way you could resume my entire post in: if you want to stop meat eating don't fight it, heal it. And healing comes from compassion. You can't heal dead animals so why not angle that healing towards those who needs it most: those you call meat eaters.
My concern is about how I feel you see those who eat meat that aren't normal people that are unaware of what they do. I just would like you to realize that real compassion must encompass all things and that having criticism over meat eaters is having criticism for yourself. You cannot eat meat and look at yourself in the mirror and that's okay as it is done in love. But you cannot expect others to judge themselves as roughly as you would do in their situation. Because if you were them you would not be you as them you would be them. Them as a whole. But you are not them and there is infinite reasons to do any actions which doesn't make them bad by default because you would judge yourself as bad doing it. All people do is what they can. You can say they don't do what they can for animals but they are doing what they can for other things. We can't all save earth by ourselves and some people(a lot actually) sacrifice their food intake's quality for the sake of what they do in their day. Would you judge them as bad if their day consist also of saving people. I'm sure a lot of people's lives involve saving people and eating meat. How bad are they on your scale of good/bad?
That doesn't mean you should stop doing what you do. That means you would actually be far more successful at what you do if you'd look at meat eaters with the same loving eyes you do with animals. Those people would then be magnetized to your love instead of feeling rejected. The problem I see about your message is not in the intent which is lovely but in the victimization and in the seperation it promotes throughout many and many posts. Don't feel theaten by my post. Just would you agree this thread has created one of the most seperation on the entire forum? It can't just be meat eater's fault. I mean I could come here and tell you eating meat is good. But what would be the point, there have been infinite arguments over it before and I'm not sitting at the right place to tell people what to eat. I'm just stoping by and I'm observing a huge gap of intentional incomprehension from both sides to the other.
Why would you say this happen if the compassion it/you/we/them/us/one have is true and whole. We are on a forum that preach oneness and yet this thread is the only thread who fails miserably at reaching it. My intent would be that this thread reach it's oneness because that oneness exist. Even after 45 pages I believe so. I really hope your answer will not be stop eating meat and we will be one because that is not the point at all. It is about understanding that by fighting something you create it. By teaching people how to not harm animals you heal it. But by fighting meat eaters you create meat eaters. Meat eaters doesn't exist without that seperation. There is only people. I am not a vegan but I don't crave for meat and would not kill an animal. I simply have the most respect for their sacrifice instead of seeing their experience as a waste. I understand that without meat eating humans would not have survived in nothern regions of the world ever and I respect the process. Only if you see people as vegan/meat eaters only you reinforce that duality once again creating more meat eating. In a way you could resume my entire post in: if you want to stop meat eating don't fight it, heal it. And healing comes from compassion. You can't heal dead animals so why not angle that healing towards those who needs it most: those you call meat eaters.