12-22-2015, 09:27 PM
(12-19-2015, 03:59 AM)Aion Wrote:(12-18-2015, 02:37 PM)Nicholas Wrote:(12-17-2015, 06:38 PM)matrix_drumr Wrote: Such deep level of sarcasm. Much suffering I sense here excluding the suffering of animals.
You have also sensed it. The heart of the matter for me is why are soo many individuals not ready to become vegan? I think the healing of an incarnation is too easily brushed aside, and too easily not brought into consideration during the discussion of such personal matters, such as this one.
Personally I think this way of thinking is... I'm not quite sure, evangelistic?
If I was to alter your sentence here slightly - "The heart of the matter for me is why are soo many individuals not ready to become [Christian/Buddhist/Muslim/etc]?"
No it is not evangelistic thinking (at least I don't perceive it to be). More it was a logical assumption. Here we are consuming various forms of 2nd density manifestations in order to sustain our own personal manifestations. According to Ra, the concept of ingesting foodstuffs in the 5th density illusion is, "somewhat a central point".
Preceding the quote above is this...
Quote:43.20 Questioner: I’m guessing that it is not necessary to ingest food in fifth density. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. However, the vehicle needs food which may be prepared by thought.
43.21 Questioner: What type of food would this be?
Ra: I am Ra. You would call this type of food nectar, or ambrosia, or a light broth of golden white hue.
So is it logical to assume that in 5th density, all entities are preparing food, not using their 5th density limbs (whatever that may look like), but using thought? Yes. That is if we hold any stock in the info that Ra offers us.
And beyond the 5th density, Ra describe food in the 6th aspect of the grand illusion at 43.24. "the nature of this food is that of light and is impossible to describe to you in any meaningful way as regards the thrust of your query."
So it is my logical assumption that in-between where we are now and the 6th density run of things (according to Ra that is), veganism as a practise, rather than an identity would be collectively explored.
The most important distinction for me lies between the concepts of "foodstuff" (which is objective), and "harvest" (which is subjective).
So to rephrase my initial question (thanks isis btw for grasping it), it would go like this. "In order to get to the heart of the matter I think we need to explore why eating meat/dairy is preferable". For me personally, it turns out that vB12 is prevalent in eggs! That btw is the original intent behind this very thread. Here I am wondering why I crave a 5 egg omelette, why I argue with my fiancee (who makes my sandwiches for work) for only boiling 3 eggs instead of 4! And why I am not ready to let go of that particular source of sustenance. I put that down to simple instinct/intuition. The same reason why I craved after raw asparagus last summer perhaps? (who knows!)
Which is why we are all at risk if we attempt to quantify (which I admit to doing at times) the harvestability of an other by way of their personal food choices. How are we to know when an other person is acting from their red ray when eating?
A comment came out of the last podcast relating to parenting. "The guiding star of the child is their free will".
Well, we are all children here on this particular thread in my eyes. We would simply not find it of any value to post here if we were not.