Why I am not a vegan

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A personal attack is when the person directs their comments AT someone in particular, and the comments are ABOUT THE PERSON, instead of about the topic.

If you go back and re-read all the meat threads, you will see that it is almost always the meat-eaters who make the PERSONAL comments ABOUT the vegetarians/vegans as PEOPLE, whereas the vegetarians/vegans' comments are about the TOPIC.

That is the difference.

I think commenting on, or pointing out, a particular style or mode of behavior of someone, is not exactly concomitant with personally attacking that person.  And that is the mostly what I've ever seen in those threads you refer to.  For example, if I said, "John Doe is acting crazy."  Is that a personal attack?  I wouldn't personally interpret it that way.  A person is not their behavior, it is simply an expression of the person.  Certainly, it says something about that person, and the person choosing to interpret it that way, but it doesn't necessarily define them as a individual.  Now if I said, "John Doe *is* a crazy person." That might actually constitute a personal attack, because I'm referring to him, the person, like it is his identity or something.

But like I said, I haven't personally seen many examples of that kind of attack.  I think most people take offense way too quickly (both sides of the argument -- I personally can't stand how "politically correct" everything seems like it has to be in today's world just to talk to someone before they cry foul).  I can argue very aggressively, but it doesn't mean I harbor a negative opinion about a person, I just make counterpoints to what I perceive as the same degree of intensity as the opposing viewpoint.  And I think that is true of a lot of people here.  Mirrors within mirrors.

Yea I'm honestly surprised other selves so based upon love and acceptance have continued for 47 pages to try to convince other selves of their subjective position. I mean hell,  what is it about acceptance that people can't accept?

My concerns were more toward oneness but since you put on the table you do not believe everything is really one thing I just moved on 

But there is a big difference: Many of the meat-eaters have repeatedly attacked US as people, with various insults regarding us personally, whereas we haven't done that to any of you

I accept that that is your interpretation of what was said, but I do not accept that is what actually happened (maybe in certain rare instances).  I'm positive that if you actually questioned the intent of virtually any previous poster whom you interpreted as personally attacking you, their intent had nothing to do with attacking you, personally, but rather simply pointing out an alternate perspective.

It's easy to confuse the two.  People often instinctively interpret the opposite viewpoint to theirs as an personal attack.  It's human nature.  I also think people oftentimes (perhaps even unconsciously) play the "personal attack victim" card to deflect relevant points, so they don't have to put forth a logical counter argument.

If the lessons of accepting and loving another self for who they are, for what they are, had been remembered this would not have been an issue at all and productive conversation would have ensued as it has in so  many other topics on this site. This is what happens when one tries to dictate unto others. Simply accepting others for who the are, and that their place In the illusion is not same as yours, that their pre incarnational lessons have not reached the lesson you so dearly care about.

Yeah the poor animals are enslaved, and they have been for thousands of years, but they have a lot more special interest groups working for them than they did in the past and progress is being made. Fucking forgive me for being poor and eating a bologna sammich for breakfast lunch and supper, but I'm just thankful to be alive and have a roof over my head at this point. 

Take a step back and consider your audience. Many wanderers incarnate into pretty shitty lives without much choice of what they eat.