(12-25-2015, 05:39 PM)anagogy Wrote: I don't see my comments as any more offensive than yours were about omnivores in general. It isn't an attack or an insult anymore than your own statement was. It was simply your own behavior reflected back at you.
This is one of the reasons I've had enough of this place. So many people can't understand the difference between having convictions about an issue, and personally insulting someone. They think a vegan saying "Eating meat supports cruelty and is wrong...cows are literally raped" is somehow insulting them personally, when that statement does No such thing at all. They just interpret it as a personal insult, rather than face their own conscience. They wire it up in their brains "Eating meat is bad...I eat meat so I must be bad...OMG she is calling me bad!!! She just attacked me!" When No one attacked them, but THEY attacked themselves with their own thinking. But they had to take a roundabout route in their thinking to arrive at that conclusion; NO attacks were made towards them directly; THEY had to follow that line of thought to that conclusion.
In contrast, saying "YOU are judgmental...YOU are trying to control me...YOU are a zealot" are all personal attacks, DIRECTLY, because they are directed at people, directly. No roundabout thinking to arrive at any conclusions...just BAM insults directed towards that person, by the words YOU ARE xyz.
It really isn't that difficult to understand. One is a statement about one's own convictions, whereas the other is a direct attack. The vegans state their own convictions; whereas many of the meat-eaters chose to attack directly.
It's actually quite normal and common, in the real world. I know this because I belong to several vegan groups and all the vegans encounter the exact same reaction in everyday life, with all sort of people who eat meat, regardless of whether those people are friends, family, coworkers, religious leaders, so-called 'New Age' channelers, hunters, 'holistic' or 'organic' type people, whatever. Doesn't matter. Without fail, most meat-eaters react the same way when vegans point out the FACTS about how animals are turned into meat and dairy.
It's a psychological defense mechanism. The truth is so horrible, so obscenely evil, that their minds cannot face that THEY are contributing to it. So they make excuses, they deny that it's really that bad, they say "animals don't really feel pain" (despite having pain receptors), or "'God' told us we can eat animals", or "caveman ate animals so we can too" or "I only buy humane meat" when there is actually No such thing, or the best one "but plants feel pain too!!!" despite plants Not having pain receptors, etc. Ultimately, it all boils down to this: DENIAL.
Then, the next thing they typically do is attack the messenger. "You are trying to control me!"..."Eating meat is a free will choice!" ..."How dare you try to take my rights away!" ..."How dare you show me that graphic slaughterhouse video! That is so horrible!" or the kicker "You are trying to CONTROL me!" never mind that it's impossible for any vegan to control what any meat-eater eats, and even IF we tried, how is that even remotely as bad as actually causing the suffering of animals in the first place?
Yes, these are all standard, typical behaviors, encountered by vegans all over the world on a daily basis. Vegans have developed a series of memes illustrating these standard responses, articles have been written, support groups formed, extensive discussions about the most effective ways to reach the oppressors and actually help the oppressed, and we all try to help one another, and we share our challenges and our triumphs, but at the end of the day, our minds are still blown at how powerful the human mind is in its ability to DENY what one is actually doing, rather than FACE the TRUTH.
Because the TRUTH is that billions of sentient beings are being literally tortured on a daily basis, and it's completely needless, and each of us has the power to do our part to stop it. (This statement is FACT and cannot be refuted.) The reality is that if someone has the awareness of what's happening and chooses to ignore it, and continues to support it, that is the epitome of STS at worst, or calloused indifference at best. (This last statement is my opinion, obviously.)
So...we carry on, just as those before us continued until the human slaves were freed. We DO make progress! A LOT of progress! More and more people are waking up! But we encounter these exact same arguments, in everyday life...all the exact same DENIALS and personal insults that Diana and I encountered here. That's one of the reasons Diana and I aren't angry or upset...and it's also why we honestly DO have compassion for all of you who are in denial...because we know that your behavior is quite normal.
My mistake was that I truly thought I'd find a higher consciousness in Law of One students. I thought I'd find more openness, more ability to face one's dark nature, more ability to feel compassion for our younger other-selves, in people who profess to understand what I consider the highest spiritual teachings on the planet, and who profess to be Wanderers.
I was wrong.
It's exactly the same here. If anything, there is even MORE denial, because now there is the added excuse of "oh but they're only 2D" and insist that a cow and a lettuce are exactly the same, as if the Neanderthal and Yogananda are exactly the same...they insist that cows are more like lettuces than like humans...when simple observation proves otherwise.
I don't apologize for my convictions. Nor do I apologize for ever judging or insulting anyone because I never have. If anyone felt judged or insulted, it was from their own conscience, and I will NOT be a doormat for them to vomit all over, rather than face their own conscience.
I DO, however, apologize for having unrealistic expectations. For that I am indeed guilty. I had very high expectations for students of the Law of One. I wrongly expected all of you to wake up easily, to see what is obvious, to recognize the needless suffering and choose to help us stop it. I wrongly expected that Law of One students would HEAR the CALL of the oppressed, as I do, as Ra hears our call, and choose to help us answer that call.
I was wrong in having those expectations. For that, I am very sorry.
This is the real reason I am leaving. Not because Parsons and some others were rude and insulting. Yawn, I've encountered worse. No, that isn't why, though Parsons' outrageous comments were certainly a trigger for deeper contemplation about why it's time to leave. (Thank you Parsons!)
Curiously, I joined on Dec. 25, 2008. 7 years to the day.
I have continued to participate in the meat discussions because I truly believe that Wanderers have the power to raise the vibration of this planet, but I No longer believe that B4 is the place to find Wanderers.
I think a lot of people who think they are Wanderers, aren't. And there are a lot of Wanderers who've never heard the term Wanderer.
I am meeting more and more Wanderers in everyday life. If Not Wanderers, then certainly they are Lightworkers. It really doesn't matter whether one is a Wanderer or not, because Wanderers can get stuck in the muck, and newly harvestable-to-4D entities can shine a lot of Light!
That's who I want to spend my time with - those who are ready to shine their light. Not with those who insist on remaining in denial, and insist that nothing matters because it's all illusion, or that compassion is somehow passe and truly enlightened people are above all that. In my understanding of the Law of One, compassion is a very basic aspect of the STO path, and the STO path is one of the core principles of the philosophy Ra attempted to convey. Compassion is very basic. All that esoteric stuff is meaningless if we don't have the basics. I don't want to be part of a community that doesn't value compassion.
I don't want to be part of a community that thinks they are above Ra themselves, that they are beyond polarity. I think they're kidding themselves.
I have concluded that the consensus here at B4 is a gross misinterpretation of the Law of One. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm the one who is misinterpreting. We shall see. But that is what I've concluded, so it's time to move on.
The Law of One isn't a book.
Peace and Blessings to all.
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