Well one can only work with what it is, work with it's identity, how it feels.
What do you make of this quote:
To me this seems like an ever flowing cycle upstream.
Also in reference that the future self distorts it's past by interacting with it.
Rather than saying we never move out of this Octave, I'd say there is a constant flow where new experiences are created to add to the totality and are simultaenously added to what moves beyond this Creation. As such in the beginning of your path you were at the end, and upon reaching the end you become a new end to potential new past experiences to be interacted with in a new manner.
What do you make of this quote:
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. To simplify this concept is our intent. The higher self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex as a gift from its future selfness. The mid-seventh density’s last action before turning towards the allness of the Creator and gaining spiritual mass is to give this resource to the sixth-density self, moving as you measure time in the stream of time.
This self, the mind/body/spirit complex of late sixth density, has then the honor/duty of using both the experiences of its total living bank or memory of experienced thoughts and actions, and using the resource of the mind/body/spirit complex totality left behind as a type of infinitely complex thought-form.
In this way you may see your self, your higher self or Oversoul, and your mind/body/spirit complex totality as three points in a circle. The only distinction is that of your time/space continuum. All are the same being.
To me this seems like an ever flowing cycle upstream.
Also in reference that the future self distorts it's past by interacting with it.
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The higher self is the entity of mid-sixth density which, turning back, offers this service to its self.
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. You are existing at all levels simultaneously. It is specifically correct that your higher self is you in mid-sixth density and, in your way of measuring what you know of as time, your higher self is your self in your future.
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The Higher Self does not manipulate its past selves. It protects when possible and guides when asked, but the force of free will is paramount. The seeming contradictions of determinism and free will melt when it is accepted that there is such a thing as true simultaneity. The Higher Self is the end result of all the development experienced by the mind/body/spirit complex to that point.
Rather than saying we never move out of this Octave, I'd say there is a constant flow where new experiences are created to add to the totality and are simultaenously added to what moves beyond this Creation. As such in the beginning of your path you were at the end, and upon reaching the end you become a new end to potential new past experiences to be interacted with in a new manner.