[split] "The dark attacks from the shadow ..."

[Minyatur]

Please Min.  You have not listened to anything I've said even when I listened and considered what you've said.  You constantly posit your version over mine where I am not positing my version as above any others.  I have my version of Reality and the Truth as do you and every one else here.  I am sharing my view, you constantly tell me in implying it's wrong for 'the way things really are'.

Sure, but there are common grounds which you would not be exempt of, that's kinda the whole idea of Logos.

You don't even see that you describe yourself.  You deny EVERYTHING I say.

This is very untrue, i nitpick on very few of what you say and generally simply try to move toward a more unified perception of common ground concepts between Co-Creators.

It is.  Very.  Annoying.  Yet I respond out of respect, I could just ignore you endlessly but then no one learns anything on either end.  But I see no one is learning even as I respond.  It asks me to approach you in a very unique angle.

Want an interesting experience among Co-Creators. Almost seems like an archetype.

You are free to ignore me if you will.

Let me show you yourself.

Reality does not do as you've said it does and you know this to be true

What if I don't? Guess I'd need convincing explanations to think otherwise rather than avoidance of what I say.

you've read the Ra Material and seen portions that do not add up, and you too have moved away from THE VERSION of Reality posited in the Material for your own

I'd disagree with this, I perceived imbalances and bias within the Ra material due to a limited set of experiences, I do think it gives some of the right keys toward a good understanding of the nature of reality within this space/time time/space and other near-space/times and time/spaces.

but believe it to be the way reality is for everyone because you literally apply everyone as you without recognizing the uniqueness in them mechanically.  You are certain ways and you deny and judge that.

Now let me recap.

I just told you what you were, how reality actually is, and what is and is not the way things are for you.

I speak very little of my personal experience of things and am well aware that there are differentiation between mind, body and spirit among every other-selves, always has been a huge interest of mine.

About the bold part, quote from above which part actually gave any picture of how reality actually is.

If you do not see yourself in this, then I decree you do not actually know what you're talking about, but giving an earnest effort to make is seem as if you do for the sake of being the way you want to be, which is apathetic, unfeeling, and uncaring.

I have a tendency to consider myself apathetic, unfeeling and uncaring but the people which truly gazed upon my soul all told me otherwise, just as it also became clear me.

I am a soul that does care a lot.

Now let me re-recap, I just assaulted you.

If you don't feel anything, then you do not understand how I feel, or I, or my reality or my Truth or anything of these things or their natures.  And in that confusion, you try to confuse me too.

I do understand you are very unbalanced. I got this kind of argument a few times, don't tell an emotive unbalanced person about the usefulness of meditation for example because they'll just hate you. Well do so if you believe it is fine that you receive hate and that you believe there's chances they will come to use the idea you gave them to help healing themselves.

I am sorry both to you and every other person that experience a living hell out of being themselves while I don't, I do believe I've been through quite my share to be how I am.

I've resisted quite a lot to open myself emphatically because I found it hard to give up on my state of inner well being to feel the unwellness of others. This is how I set my experience, that it shall be something to be sought and not inherently there as to bring greater change within myself. But through various different experiences I came to know I actually can enjoy it pretty much and find it is quite the beautiful thing, emotions are most glorious just as providing help to heal.

I'm still resisting opening myself but have rarely discussed the reasons on this forum although there are clues.

In ACTUALITY, the underlying reality, my way is my way, Ra's way is Ra's way, L/L's way is L/L's way, Carla's way was Carla's way, and your way is your way.

Your way is not my way.

You are

I REPEAT.

Your way is not my way.

You are quite perceptible, this is indeed true and is something I've been repeating so much on this forum I started to wonder if there's a point in saying the same thing over and over.

You've given me quite a nice headache, pounding on the right side because I'm unsure if I should use scathing words to cut into that numb shell and touch some actual meat and tug away, or if I should offer sincere kindness and endless consideration trying to coax you out of that shell of you-ness.  I don't want to do either honestly because I see now that you do not hear, listen, see, understand, or know what I am talking about, but you speak a lot of confused aspects of The Ra Material.

If you can actually succeed in touching some meat and tug away, do so because I am a moon in Scorpio (which kind of seek these things, emotionally challenging things) and so far there's only been 3 people on this forum who succeeded.

You use your answers as placeholders for THE answers.  Nothing underlies Love except that which it stemmed from, which I promise you, was not a primordial void.  Eternity is Eternity.  You call my way Complex, I see it as Simpler than your way however.

My answers are not THE answers, I'm just programmed for this mainly just as talking out disagreements within perception of things rather than completely trying to avoid it. To me it is most enjoyable to do, but I did notice some have extreme resistance toward this.. like they're afraid of breaking down something they think.

Either we're now dancing a game of blocks (makes me want to play minecraft) or we're stumbling around each other like two children unable to make amends and bridge their understandings because one says their way is the way and another feels their way is only their way.

I'm not talking about ways, I'm talking about mechanics.

And I'm going to stop dancing now.  You make me tired too.  Because I can't do anything to help you see that while you are not wrong, you are also not completely right.  Never mind anything else pertaining to how you 'come off' judging me then deny doing so, and how you 'come off' negating my views then deny doing that as well.

Aw.. come on, when we first talked you said I was someone interesting to talk to and now you deny it.

What would you like me to do almighty wise Elros?  I shall bow down and kiss your toes if that'll help, I'll worship the ground you walk upon, and decree your way as THE WAY, while secretly living my own out of your view and influence.  Will that help my slavemaster?  IS that what you want?  Me to agree with you?  Say, 'Yes Min, You're absolutely right and I was blind and wrong all along because I did not hear, listen, see know, understand, or comprehend anything at all and was always too confused but you're so pure and proper in all you say that your way is THE WAY.  Hallujah I AM FREE, THANK YOU!'

Just quick questions, I tend to forget things I write because my mind is kinda a tornado of ideas. Did I ever tell you to do something? Did I not tell you the exact opposite of that? Did I not simply discuss how you explain concepts?

Cause I'll do that.  Feet don't gross me out, and the ground is fun to worship.  I am a hypocrite and go back on my own opinions often as they are usually changing as I go about my life.

How shall I please you this time?  Maybe I'll admit that I am capable of negation and judgment, or maybe I'll just show you what it means to be negated and judged?  OR maybe I'll just not care, or maybe I will.

I am ever pleased, no need to worry.

OR maybe who knows.  I don't but you sure seem to, so enlighten me Elros-Tar-Minyutar.  Tell me the Truth about my Reality and all that is wrong with it.  I await you.

Gladly.

You exist within a given order of which you are not exempt, so there are things which are common grounds of experience although it is very good to perceive that the experience of personal reality can greatly differ from one another.

I'm honestly not trying to discuss what you do, I'm only discussing the thought form within which we exist and I disagreed with little of what you said. Actually it's mainly been that you say there is no duality of polarity and that your thoughts hold no creative power. Know that some are heartbroken at the very idea that their thoughts hold the power of creating alternate realities, although that goes beyond what I have discussed so far since I discussed an indirect impact through time in these planes. It's just a matter of that all is interconnected, resonance through this interconnection and energy behind the thing. So what exactly do you disagree with here (since through all your words you simply didn't resonate with this). Are things not interconnected to you in a way that transcends space and time? Is because of this notion resonance not happening? Do you believe energy does nothing?

We are dancing thoughts and outside of thoughts lies the absence of thoughts, which is what I said underlies the thought of Love by referring it as the Void.