02-22-2016, 02:21 PM
It's a bit delicate I think because both of them both at least started out with good intentions, and they have affected a lot of positive changes in a lot of people. The worst thing they can do while trying to maintain a positive persona is to confuse people, which apparently some people still want and buy into readily. I also think that if we let their flaws overrun their whole being, that the negative 'greetings' they are receiving and indulging in on whims are working: To say that both of their works as a whole are fraudulent would be incorrect in my opinion. There are gems. But it is good I think to be the voice that points these things out when people are so obviously desirous to blindly follow a guru, and that guru is more than happy to accumulate "followers".
I mean, if you use the Bible as an analogy of a work of positive and negative influence, Ra still says that the "truth" can be found in these writings. Very few things have the 'purity' that the Ra material offers, so that's why it's important to exercise fluid discernment.
But, I don't really think either of them are tuned in a radiant way, at the moment. But I think they operate on a spectrum as we all do. Reading that thread and learning that Darryl took lessons from Jane Roberts makes sense, because I can see Bashar as Seth repackaged with a personality. But who knows. If it makes you feel good, one shouldn't feel guilty about that. But if it makes you feel bad, you shouldn't feel guilty either for avoiding it. Bashar and David at different times have said some things that I have found of value, but currently both of them seem to have let the 3d distortions of power go a bit to their heads.
I'm not disagreeing with you I'm just packaging it in a way that still validates everyone who has gotten value from their teachings, even though they are not perfect teachers. Who is?
Quote:Ra: The desire of the scribe may be seen in much of this material to have affected the manner of its presentation just as the abilities and preferences of this group determine the nature of this contact. The difference lies in the fact that we are as we are. Thus we may either speak as we will or not speak at all. This demands a very tuned, shall we say, group.
I mean, if you use the Bible as an analogy of a work of positive and negative influence, Ra still says that the "truth" can be found in these writings. Very few things have the 'purity' that the Ra material offers, so that's why it's important to exercise fluid discernment.
But, I don't really think either of them are tuned in a radiant way, at the moment. But I think they operate on a spectrum as we all do. Reading that thread and learning that Darryl took lessons from Jane Roberts makes sense, because I can see Bashar as Seth repackaged with a personality. But who knows. If it makes you feel good, one shouldn't feel guilty about that. But if it makes you feel bad, you shouldn't feel guilty either for avoiding it. Bashar and David at different times have said some things that I have found of value, but currently both of them seem to have let the 3d distortions of power go a bit to their heads.
I'm not disagreeing with you I'm just packaging it in a way that still validates everyone who has gotten value from their teachings, even though they are not perfect teachers. Who is?