Quote:No the 1st density structure of the mountain is not destroyed, its 3rd density consciousness simply vacates that structure and incarnates in a 3rd density body.
So, a mountain entity would just "vacate" its body? Like, harvest itself, but without death of its body complex? So do you think a walk-in comes and inhabits the shell of a body complex? Or does it sit empty? I just don't think this would happen. If anything, I would think that its incarnation into a human body would continue to be simultaneous with its mineral body, if it wants to incarnate here at harvest.
Ra says a mountain, a tree, and a dog can vibrate in the green ray, and makes no caveat that they must destroy their body complex and reincarnate into another one to experience it. All rays in potentiation. The chains that you are imagining are part of the illusion.
I see a mountain as a macrocosm of a human body. It has many clusters of cells working together into different organs, and has cooperative/parasitic beings that also utilize it. I do not see a mountain as less complex than a human with a brain or fingers. Like you mentioned, it's entirely possible that the veins of metal and crystallized (hint hint) mineral throughout the entity could form into something like a nervous system.
Quote:I think its important to draw a distinction between possibility and probability. They might have the "potential" for all vibratory rates, but realistically that won't happen till they have the machinery to properly do 3rd density work. We all have the "potential" to activate our denser bodies and be like gods, but it almost never happens.
I just think this is a restrictive way of looking at it. We are all the Creator. Any of us can realize it in a moment, and to say "us" refers to just humans is nonsense.
Here is another example of Don trying to get Ra to confirm that an entity must follow a certain pattern of incarnational cycles to harvest. Ra says that ultimately it's the harmonious balance of the energy centers that determines harvestability. And, I think at harvest, that it's probable that many late second density beings are vibrating at higher rates than just the "cap" that you put on them in their form - believing that the late second density requires incarnation into a -human- vehicle to even begin its lessons in third density. I believe that most second density entities with investiture can easily learn/process the first sub-octaves of 3rd density.
Quote:48.7 Questioner: Thank you. I would like to take as an example an entity, at birth, who is roughly high on the seniority list for positive polarization and possible harvestability at the end of this cycle and follow a full cycle of his experience starting before his incarnation— which body is activated, process of becoming incarnate, the activation of the third-density physical body, process as the body moves through this density and is acted upon by catalyst, and then the process of death, and the activation of the various bodies so that we make a full circuit from a point prior to incarnation back around through incarnation and death and back to that position you might say in one cycle of incarnation in this density. Could you do that for me?
Ra: I am Ra. Your query is most distorted for it assumes that creations are alike. Each mind/body/spirit complex has its own patterns of activation and its own rhythms of awakening. The important thing for harvest is the harmonious balance between the various energy centers of the mind/body/spirit complex. This is to be noted as of relative import. We grasp the thrust of your query and will make a most general answer stressing the unimportance of such arbitrary generalizations.
Quote:You can see in this section Ra specifically says the chemical body must be capable of abstract thought. A mind may be 3rd density, but it needs a body that "fits it". Otherwise it is kind of like wearing a pair of mittens on your hand, as opposed to a regular glove, and trying to type something on a keyboard. The individual fingers are not allowed to function at full capacity because the structure doesn't allow for that nuanced dexterity.
Again, I believe you are looking at the second density body as far too limiting. What about the Logos who evolved from trees? Their "meditation" is movement. This conceptualization of brains and body complexes that are necessary for 3rd density I believe is biased by this current incarnation.
Quote:Not precisely from my perspective. Consider another Ra quote:
Quote: Wrote:105.14 Questioner: Then the yellow-ray body, from the very beginning, was designed as what Ra has called an athanor for the mind, a device, you might say, to accelerate the evolution of the mind. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. It is perhaps more accurate to note that the yellow-ray, physical vehicle is a necessity without which the mind/body/spirit complex cannot pursue evolution at any pace.
That Ra quote is A) Trying to undistort a thought of Don's that's based on inaccurate thinking B) Talking about the archetypes, therefore relating the position of the use of a yellow-ray body to an incarnate 6th density Wanderer who desires to use the archetypes of the mind/body/spirit to further balance their polarity in the higher realms and C) Again, there is very clear quote where Ra says that a second density being can activate the yellow-ray body in my previous post. Ra then says when the yellow-ray body is activated, that the rest of the rays are in potentiation. I believe this is what your bolded portion means.
There is also the case of the beings from Maldek who use the limited 2nd density form as karmic restitution. Does this remove or undo all of the lessons of 3rd density from these entities? Are they forced back into the group pool without individualization by their incarnation into these bodies? I doubt it.
I think Ra says very clearly in the first quote I posted that a second-density can vibrate in green-ray (i.e. activate the yellow-ray) and THUS the yellow-ray entity has access to the rest of the rays. Yes, the great majority of beings who experience third density on our planet do so in human bodies, but I think this also has to do with all of the ramifications of The Choice. In theory, I believe, a 2nd density say, horse, could learn awareness and then, if efficient, quickly learn the lessons of love and service, possibly even dying as a martyr, and therefore not be beholden to the cycles of 3rd density incarnation. It doesn't have to be necessary for every entity, though the sequential activation was there. However, once it incarnates into 4th density time/space, it may decide to Wander as some 4th densities do.