Dear third-density-being,
Thank you very much for your reading and replying.
So your viewpoint seems to be a new one (namely, a third one) other than the two I mentioned in my original post. Although I still maintain my viewpoint, I actually prefer your viewpoint to the first viewpoint, for both of us agree that there is no need for any changes.
However, I know from Jim that the latest edits to 70.6/7 in the Ra Contact (which is in its editing process and may be published at the end of this year) adopts the first viewpoint; that is, changing "time/space" to "space/time" in, at least, four places colored red:
Based on your reasoning, I think this latest edits may also be fine to you. But I think there may be a key point missed here; that is, why Don asked about the higher self’s reluctance to enter negative time/space again and again in session 70 (given the answer is very clear from session 68 and 69; that is,
From my perspective, the reason why Don asked that question in session 70 is that he did not know why the displaced mind/body/spirit cannot simply be extracted from negative time/space to the home planet. That's the thrust of Don's several questions in session 70, which he finally made clearly in 70.17.
Please note that: Ra indicated in 69.11 that it is due to the Higher Self's reluctance to enter negative space/time that "the path back cannot be the simple moving back into the same value of positive time/space". Thus, in order to clarify his confusion, Don asked that question about higher self's reluctance.
As to the contradiction, there actually are two: one is Don's changes of Ra's words (i.e. s/t to t/s); the other one happens only when Don's words are changed (i.e. t/s to s/t).
While Don's changes are understandable for me, the latter or new changes are what I disagree with for it makes contradiction as mentioned in my original post.
Besides, though without any new changes, your interpretation may also lead to problems in my eyes,
From these underlined sentences, the logic of Don is that: it is necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time, because the higher self is reluctant to enter the negative time/space.
According to what you wrote about the higher self's reluctance, that sentence may be translated into: it is necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time, because the path back from negative environment is very difficult and lengthy.
Do you think this sentence makes any sense?
Thank you very much for your reading and replying.
So your viewpoint seems to be a new one (namely, a third one) other than the two I mentioned in my original post. Although I still maintain my viewpoint, I actually prefer your viewpoint to the first viewpoint, for both of us agree that there is no need for any changes.
However, I know from Jim that the latest edits to 70.6/7 in the Ra Contact (which is in its editing process and may be published at the end of this year) adopts the first viewpoint; that is, changing "time/space" to "space/time" in, at least, four places colored red:
Quote:70.6 Questioner: In the last session Ra stated that “the path back from sixth-density negative time/space revolves, firstly, about the higher self’s reluctance to enter negative space/time.” Could you explain the higher self’s position with respect to positive and negative time/space and why it is so reluctant to enter negative space/time that it is necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time to find its path back?
Ra: I am Ra. In brief, you have answered your own query. Please question further for more precise information.
70.7 Questioner: Why is the higher self reluctant to enter negative space/time?
Ra: I am Ra. The Higher Self is reluctant to allow its mind/body/spirit complex to enter negative space/time for the same basic reason an entity of your societal complex would be reluctant to enter a prison.
Based on your reasoning, I think this latest edits may also be fine to you. But I think there may be a key point missed here; that is, why Don asked about the higher self’s reluctance to enter negative time/space again and again in session 70 (given the answer is very clear from session 68 and 69; that is,
- a highly polarized positive mind/body/spirit complex surrounded by negative portions of time/space will experience only darkness,
- it is difficult for a positive mind/body/spirit complex to learn lessons of self-love in negative space/time,
- and the path back from a negative time/space takes much longer)
Quote:68.7 Questioner: Then you are saying that if this fifth-density negative entity is successful in its attempts to transfer the mind/body/spirit complex when that complex is in what we call the trance state to negatively polarized time/space, then the higher self has no choice but to allow incarnation in negatively polarized space/time? Is that correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The Higher Self could allow the mind/body/spirit complex to remain in time/space. However, it is unlikely that the Higher Self would do so indefinitely due to its distortion towards the belief that the function of the mind/body/spirit complex is to experience and learn from other-selves thus experiencing the Creator. A highly polarized positive mind/body/spirit complex surrounded by negative portions of space/time* will experience only darkness, for like the magnet, there is no, shall we say, likeness. Thus a barrier is automatically formed.
* Don’s follow-up question and Ra’s answer to it (68.8) appear to indicate that Ra meant to say time/space here.
69.11 Questioner: Can you tell me of the situation that the Wanderer finds itself in and why the path back cannot be the simple moving back into the same value of positive time/space?
Ra: I am Ra. The path back revolves, firstly, about the higher self’s reluctance to enter negative space/time. This may be a significant part of the length of that path. Secondly, when a positively oriented entity incarnates in a thoroughly negative environment it must needs learn/teach the lessons of the love of self thus becoming one with its other-selves.
When this has been accomplished the entity may then choose to release the potential difference and change polarities.
However, the process of learning the accumulated lessons of love of self may be quite lengthy. Also the entity, in learning these lessons, may lose much positive orientation during the process and the choice of reversing polarities may be delayed until the mid-sixth density. All of this is, in your way of measurement, time-consuming although the end result is well.
From my perspective, the reason why Don asked that question in session 70 is that he did not know why the displaced mind/body/spirit cannot simply be extracted from negative time/space to the home planet. That's the thrust of Don's several questions in session 70, which he finally made clearly in 70.17.
Please note that: Ra indicated in 69.11 that it is due to the Higher Self's reluctance to enter negative space/time that "the path back cannot be the simple moving back into the same value of positive time/space". Thus, in order to clarify his confusion, Don asked that question about higher self's reluctance.
Quote:70.17 Questioner: Now here is the point of my confusion. If, after physical death, a Wanderer would return to his home planet, shall I say, why cannot the same entity be extracted from negative time/space to the home planet rather than incarnating in negative space/time?
Ra: I am Ra. As we stated, the position in negative time/space, of which we previously were speaking, is that position which is pre-incarnative. After the death of the physical complex in yellow-ray activation the mind/body/spirit complex moves to a far different portion of time/space in which the indigo body will allow much healing and review to take place before any movement is made towards another incarnative experience.
I perceive a basic miscalculation upon your part in that time/space is no more homogenous than space/time. It is as complex and complete a system of illusions, dances, and pattern as is space/time and has as structured a system of what you may call natural laws.
As to the contradiction, there actually are two: one is Don's changes of Ra's words (i.e. s/t to t/s); the other one happens only when Don's words are changed (i.e. t/s to s/t).
While Don's changes are understandable for me, the latter or new changes are what I disagree with for it makes contradiction as mentioned in my original post.
Besides, though without any new changes, your interpretation may also lead to problems in my eyes,
Quote:70.6 Questioner: In the last session Ra stated that “the path back from sixth-density negative time/space revolves, firstly, about the higher self’s reluctance to enter negative time/space.” Could you explain the higher self’s position with respect to positive and negative time/space and why it is so reluctant to enter negative time/space that it is necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time to find its path back?
70.14 Questioner: Oh yes. Sorry about that. It slipped my mind. Now, if a positive entity is displaced to negative time/space I understand that the higher self is reluctant to enter the negative time/space. And for some reason this makes it necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time. Why is it necessary for this incarnation in negative space/time?
From these underlined sentences, the logic of Don is that: it is necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time, because the higher self is reluctant to enter the negative time/space.
According to what you wrote about the higher self's reluctance, that sentence may be translated into: it is necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time, because the path back from negative environment is very difficult and lengthy.
Do you think this sentence makes any sense?
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