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    04-21-2016, 04:18 AM (This post was last modified: 04-21-2016, 04:24 AM by third-density-being.)
    (04-20-2016, 12:20 PM)Rolci Wrote: Sorry if the question was not clear, I thought it was, we were not looking for the reason for the existence of the veil, we were interested in the reason for the different modes information is transmitted in states where the veil is down and thus out of the equation. Dreamtime - symbolism. Hypnosis and psychedelic experience - clear verbal answers that can be recalled/recorded and analyzed and shared.

    I think it all depends on a Being and It’s capability to understand / process the information.
    In third density (which is Our point-of-reference in such divagations) We have language that is based on separation – i.e. each object possess it’s own name, We all possess Our names, etc. It all is aligned with the way We are processing the information – with the “nature of Our comprehension”.
    RA mentioned (at least once) that there are “things” / “phenomenon” beyond words, without a name. Since Our thinking / comprehending is based on words and categories they bring - at the “default” mode of comprehension proper for this density - such things / phenomenon are beyond Our reach – at least Mind-based reach (third-density-mind). We are of course capable of “intuitive knowing”, but this is not always (rarely sometimes) translatable into Our words / categories.

    I suppose it is same within higher densities – it is not that the information is withheld (which I thinks is not), but it’s all about the capability of a Beings to access it, as well as to process it. Since each portion of Creation contains All (Creator), in every “place” (as We would say within this reality based on space and time) All the information is available here and now. Literally. So it all comes down to the Quality of a Being that Seeks the information.

    Even without the Veil, to comprehend / to Know is a process, which I think may be equate with/to the “Journey through the Densities” / Spiritual Evolution. For example for Ra to answer Don’s question, it was necessary to cloth His/Her/It/Theirs understanding/Knowledge with/into Our language, which is in fact a symbolic representation of mentioned understanding/Knowledge.

    I would also say/write, that perception itself is interwoven with capability of understanding / Knowing. Therefore fourth-density-Being for example, would perceive differently this Universe, but it would still be cloth with symbols that are proper for capabilities/limitations of such Being.

    When there would be no need for symbols, We would deal with something called “Direct Knowing”. One of explanations of this term I’ve encounter is “Direct Experience”.
    To give an example native to Our reality, would be to compare “being on a trip” with “sharing/describing the trip to a Friend. We have experienced the “trip” Our-Selves and that would be “Direct Knowledge of a trip”. When We are trying to share this experience with Other-Self, We are doing it via words/symbols. Now, Our Friend would not possess “Direct Knowledge” of a trip, but only a “Symbolic representation” of it. Furthermore, We would be able to recall an entire experience and Know it for what it was. Our Friend on the other hand would only be able to recall Our words/symbols that were used to transfer this experience to Him/Her (plus of course His/Her own input to this transfer provided by His/Her imagination: pictures, sounds, feelings that He/She would connect with symbols, that were used to transfer such experience).

    However in above example one, basic thing was not emphasized – that is: Our capability of experiencing the trip (!) Due to Our perception it was a “direct experience”, but an experience of a symbolic nature, since everything that surrounds us is in fact a symbol (that includes every, single material object, such as tree, road, car, lake – and even the movement through the space or time lapse / flow of time). All that proper / native to Our Qualities, as a third-density-Beings. I think same goes for higher densities and Beings present there.

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