04-25-2016, 02:03 PM
(04-25-2016, 11:57 AM)jeremy6d Wrote: P.S. I do think it's weird that in certain places Confederation sources talk about the higher densities as less dense, not more, than the lower densities. It's a weird way to think about it, and the above is partially how I reconcile it, and might give you an idea of why I'm not totally at peace with that model. I do wonder about this notion of "spiritual gravity" that anagogy and others mentioned above; perhaps lower densities are more dense in some basic kind of material that then gets displaced by more of a less dense material? This makes me think of Plenum's model of "transordination" too, though I'm having trouble expressing it. Just some errant thoughts! I had a vision of reality being a jar of oil and water that gets "shaken up" at Creation, and we're part of the intelligence of those liquids in reordering, and that this is the kind of transordination that allows the restructuring of unity to occur, but it's just a passing thought I"m not attached to and now I'm rambling.
Awesome discussion all around. Just wanted to share this point from the Ra material where Ra refers to a lower density body as being "less dense":
Quote:The fourth-density entities which incarnate at this space/time are fourth density in the view of experience but are incarnating in less dense vehicles due to desire to experience and aid in the birth of fourth density upon this plane.
They are basically saying that the fourth-density entities are incarnating not in fourth-density bodies, but "less dense" bodies (third-density bodies, or dual-activated bodies). I'm not sure if I recall the Confederation referring to higher density bodies as "less dense," but I do think it could be seen to be correct from a different context. There is often a comparison between chemical bodies and electric bodies, making chemical bodies seem more "physically dense" than the higher density bodies. But I wonder if comparing physical density to the type of density that Ra talks about is even a relevant connection.
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