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    05-15-2016, 04:42 PM
    (05-15-2016, 03:57 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: I just want to clarify that I only referred to the mind as the microcosm because that is what Ra says in the quote 4.17. I haven't made any suggestions towards the personal body.

    My apologies if I misinterpreted what you said. When you said, "This means we can take what we have learned in the "thought realm" (microcosm) into the "body realm" (macrocosm)." it sounded like you were referring to the personal body. If you refer to the "thought realm" as the microcosm, why wouldn't the "body realm" be a microcosm as well? That is the source of my confusion.

    Maybe I just interpret what Ra said differently but when they referred to consciousness as the microcosm of the Law of One, I interpret them to be referring to the "personal consciousness", because if we aren't referring to the personal consciousness, it would be the Logos' consciousness, which would be macrocosmic in scope to my way of reckoning.

    (05-15-2016, 03:57 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: If we give more weight to the mind realm, then why does Ra says that we should carry out non-STO desires within the mind-realm?

    First off, I don't give more weight to the mind realm. It is as illusory as the body realm.  

    What I said is that the inner and outer are reflections of one another. So when you look at the world of body, or the world of mind, you are seeing consciousness, as both are manifestations of consciousness. Mind is inner motion, and body is outer motion. Consciousness, in my view, is the backdrop of motion (I would lean towards calling it spirit).

    Secondly, Ra advises that because for the most part, we don't have conscious access to the part of the mind realm that everybody sees (you can see this "objective mind reality" if you astral project however). If we did, Ra simply wouldn't even advise that, because it would be no different than doing it in the physical world. Our personal thoughts eventually seep into the "consensus mind" but it doesn't usually happen instantly, there is a process involved, so there is a degree of latitude between subjective thought and objective manifestation.

    When you engage with "others" in the "outer world" you are simultaneously engaging with "others" in the "inner world" as well (though we not usually consciously aware of this). But as I said, the inner and outer are simply different perspectives on the same "thing" (consciousness). The consensus reality is an amalgamation of overlapping personal realities. But just as there are parts of the outer world which do not overlap with others' outer world, there are parts of the inner world which do not overlap with others' inner world. Thus, when Ra admonishes us to carry out our STS desires in imagination, they mean to say: in our own personal, non overlapping portion of reality (the orange ray complex of mind). Sort of like venting your violent impulses on NPC's in video games as opposed to going out and doing them to others.
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    The body in its natural functions - by Jade - 05-15-2016, 12:46 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by anagogy - 05-15-2016, 02:40 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by Jade - 05-15-2016, 03:03 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by anagogy - 05-15-2016, 03:46 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by Verum Occultum - 05-15-2016, 04:48 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by Jade - 05-15-2016, 03:57 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by anagogy - 05-15-2016, 04:42 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by YinYang - 05-15-2016, 04:11 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by Jae - 05-15-2016, 04:22 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by Jae - 05-15-2016, 04:41 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by YinYang - 05-15-2016, 05:22 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by anagogy - 05-15-2016, 05:27 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by YinYang - 05-15-2016, 05:44 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by Jade - 05-15-2016, 05:36 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by YinYang - 05-15-2016, 07:05 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by Jae - 05-15-2016, 05:52 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by Jae - 05-15-2016, 06:03 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by Jae - 05-15-2016, 06:17 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by YinYang - 05-15-2016, 07:07 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by Jade - 05-15-2016, 07:41 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by YinYang - 05-16-2016, 03:46 AM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by Jade - 05-16-2016, 10:02 AM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by I am Shayne - 05-16-2016, 02:06 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by YinYang - 05-16-2016, 02:30 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by YinYang - 05-16-2016, 02:36 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by I am Shayne - 04-07-2017, 06:42 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by I am Shayne - 05-16-2016, 02:41 PM
    RE: The body in its natural functions - by YinYang - 05-16-2016, 03:09 PM

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