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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Archetypes of Mind, Body, & Spirit Courting the maiden

    Thread: Courting the maiden


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    05-21-2016, 04:11 PM
    Quote:And with wisdom comes transformation of the mind, letting go of distortions for higher ways instead as one becomes more and more aware to provide higher service.

    I believe this is our fundamental disagreement. I believe, at its core, that the Transformation of the Mind is about love and specifically not wisdom. The male in the card has his eyes closed, he sees nothing.

    I think it's possible you may be conflating the Transformation of the Mind with the Transformation of the Body? - in the Death card, we are consciously harvesting what we want to take with us to the next moment/day/birth. Wisdom and discernment are fairly paramount. But there is (hopefully!) little wisdom in courting a maiden, which is likely one reason why the analogy was chosen - we act stupid when we're in love. We're Fools. And within the archetype I believe comes the need to allow oneself to look/feel stupid. The dark imp serves the right hand path in the Significator.

    I feel like the Q'uo sessions I shared described what I've been saying, one thing especially being about the point of catalyst is never to suffer through it, the point of catalyst is to rise above it in love and harmony. So yes, I do see where there could be some scenario where I'm not actually supposed to feed a hungry person, but the chances are that if I do feed them anyway, they'll still find the catalyst they need eventually. And I don't think it would be depolarizing, because I don't think a properly courted High Priestess would "depolarize" me for not listening to her to be selfish. That seems pretty twisted from my understandings of the Confederation teachings, which is that love is always more important than wisdom. Wisdom refines love. Only in 3rd density would we ever consider to put the cart before the horse.

    The funny thing about the Ra material is that we can all take the same quote and use it to justify different points of view. Yes, the "haunt rather than explicate" quote is the one I had to use to defend myself for pages while you took umbrage with the maiden/prostitute analogy. You may have been talking about the Transformation in context the whole time, but the problem is, when you disagree with the core image of the archetype, how can we relate anything to any of the other imagery? How do we talk about it in context? How do we talk about what the closed eyes mean, or the arms crossed holding hands, or any of it? I asked what you let go of, and you say "these things fall away" but what things? And what about using the transformation consciously?

    Quote:All of this happening through heightened awareness of it all (transformation of the mind)

    Rereading your post, I'm not sure how "heightened awareness of it all" is a good quip for transformation of the mind. Ra says, "In this image of Transformation of Mind, then, each of the females points the way it would go, but is not able to move, nor are the two female entities striving to do so. They are at rest. The conscious entity holds both and will turn itself one way or the other or, potentially, backwards and forwards, rocking first one way then the other and not achieving the transformation. In order for the Transformation of Mind to occur, one principle governing the use of the deep mind must be abandoned." I mean, Ra says in the Transformation that something must be abandoned. It seems incongruent to the idea that in the Transformation, one must learn to contain more within the mind.

    It also seems like you could be talking about the Catalyst/Experience (of the mind)? The Catalyst of the Mind has a box with eyes upon it, looking around at and aware of all of the catalyst and all of Creation, and then Experience decides where to distill it. The transformation is a whole nother thing. I mean, "through heightened awareness of it all" could be referring to the Great Way and its lifted veil, but I don't think that it describes the core meaning of the Transformation as a card within itself. You could be talking about getting to know the High Priestess, but still, you have to choose which High Priestess, you can't have both/all of them for the transformation to occur. That's been my point this whole time. You can't have your cake and eat it too. There's a quip for the Transformation of the Mind.

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    Courting the maiden - by Jade - 03-03-2016, 02:20 PM
    - - by earth_spirit - 03-03-2016, 02:30 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 03-03-2016, 02:49 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Ankh - 03-09-2016, 04:30 AM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by WanderingOZ - 07-01-2016, 03:12 AM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 03-04-2016, 11:20 AM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by APeacefulWarrior - 03-05-2016, 01:52 AM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 03-05-2016, 02:52 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Plenum - 03-05-2016, 04:57 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 03-09-2016, 10:34 AM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Blunt Force - 05-05-2016, 03:31 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-05-2016, 05:54 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Infinite Unity - 05-12-2016, 07:05 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Minyatur - 05-12-2016, 07:57 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Infinite Unity - 09-23-2016, 05:08 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Night Owl - 05-12-2016, 08:16 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Minyatur - 05-12-2016, 08:36 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Night Owl - 05-12-2016, 08:54 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-12-2016, 11:24 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Minyatur - 05-12-2016, 11:57 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Night Owl - 05-13-2016, 12:13 AM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-13-2016, 10:18 AM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Night Owl - 05-13-2016, 01:53 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-13-2016, 02:18 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Night Owl - 05-13-2016, 03:15 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-13-2016, 03:37 PM
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    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-13-2016, 04:14 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Night Owl - 05-13-2016, 04:26 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-13-2016, 05:32 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by JustLikeYou - 05-14-2016, 11:08 AM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Night Owl - 05-14-2016, 02:22 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Night Owl - 05-14-2016, 05:28 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-15-2016, 11:43 AM
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    RE: Courting the maiden - by Minyatur - 05-15-2016, 03:00 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-15-2016, 03:20 PM
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    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-15-2016, 03:47 PM
    RE: Courting the maiden - by Minyatur - 05-15-2016, 04:18 PM
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    RE: Courting the maiden - by Minyatur - 05-16-2016, 03:36 PM
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    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-15-2016, 05:33 PM
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    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-16-2016, 05:25 PM
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    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-17-2016, 01:48 PM
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    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-17-2016, 01:59 PM
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    RE: Courting the maiden - by Night Owl - 05-17-2016, 02:50 PM
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    RE: Courting the maiden - by Night Owl - 05-18-2016, 04:28 PM
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    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-19-2016, 12:18 PM
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    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-19-2016, 12:52 PM
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    RE: Courting the maiden - by Jade - 05-19-2016, 01:03 PM
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