05-21-2016, 08:15 PM
But... there isn't one maiden. There are two maidens. They represent polarity. You say you see polarity, but then at the end of your post, you say "There is only one maiden". The card is about walking the path of polarity within third density, and making The Choice. Of course outside of the illusion there is only one maiden, but we are trying to talk about within the system of polarity.
Yes, but there is a difference between "making a new choice based upon love" and "making a new choice based upon STO, green-ray love", and the card is about both but choosing the latter if you want to be harvested 4D+.
You think the Fool's Journey is about obtaining wisdom, no matter what detours you have to take?
This is third density, shifting into fourth. The archetypes are a teaching tool for the third density experience. I just can't get past that you insist wisdom is more important than love.
This is how I see the Fool's Journey in the context of the archetype. The Fool has found the potential for love all around him, but to progress through the density (continue down his path), the Fool must decide if it wants to love carefully and with an always open heart, or without thought to the state of their heart chakra. This is the need to choose betwixt the light and the dark. As the Fool lets go of the prostitute and chooses to carefully court the maiden, this is the process upon which he hones his intuition, because through the veil in the mind complex, our initial unconscious impulses aren't "pure" I guess could be the word for it. We are working towards the athanor of the alchemist. As we take the time to carefully court her, that which she returns is greater in value. Ra says if we refuse to transform or use the left-hand path, "that which is gained is rough, prostituted, and without great virtue" - therefore, the High Priestess isn't giving you her best, because you aren't giving her your best. It's like when Ra talks about the blue-ray transfer between mated entities being a "jewel dearly bought" - it requires dedicated, conscious, willful effort towards polarizing on the STO path i.e. crystallizing the heart chakra.
The Higher Self too is without polarity. We choose the polarity, and then the priestess goes that way. And we can't abandon her hand and run back to the other priestess, or, clothe her in a different guise from time to time, because we undo the transformation. The paths are diverging.
Yes, the need to choose is created by the heightened awareness given by utilizing the Catalyst/Experience duo. Ra's referring to the previous set of cards as he leads into #6. Is there something else you would say in the imagery of the Lovers card that points to "heightened awareness", other than the closed eyes, since we disagree on their meaning?
Quote:I did not say it is solely about wisdom, but wisdom can't be totally unrelated. We speak of the mind, any newly gained awareness forces one to make new choices based upon love, which then can come to bring transformation.
Yes, but there is a difference between "making a new choice based upon love" and "making a new choice based upon STO, green-ray love", and the card is about both but choosing the latter if you want to be harvested 4D+.
Quote:I see the fool quite differently than you do. The fool that desires to be wise in it's ways will take the required detours to find within himself to be wise. He knows where to go but may take wrong turns upon the path. This is how I am a fool with my High Priestess, I seek her wisdom and awareness and although it has lead me to strange places like the bible or any seemingly off path set of thoughts, each step had a purpose in teaching me something and acted as a gateway. The fool gets somewhere through his inherent faith and pure intent to seek.
You think the Fool's Journey is about obtaining wisdom, no matter what detours you have to take?
This is third density, shifting into fourth. The archetypes are a teaching tool for the third density experience. I just can't get past that you insist wisdom is more important than love.
This is how I see the Fool's Journey in the context of the archetype. The Fool has found the potential for love all around him, but to progress through the density (continue down his path), the Fool must decide if it wants to love carefully and with an always open heart, or without thought to the state of their heart chakra. This is the need to choose betwixt the light and the dark. As the Fool lets go of the prostitute and chooses to carefully court the maiden, this is the process upon which he hones his intuition, because through the veil in the mind complex, our initial unconscious impulses aren't "pure" I guess could be the word for it. We are working towards the athanor of the alchemist. As we take the time to carefully court her, that which she returns is greater in value. Ra says if we refuse to transform or use the left-hand path, "that which is gained is rough, prostituted, and without great virtue" - therefore, the High Priestess isn't giving you her best, because you aren't giving her your best. It's like when Ra talks about the blue-ray transfer between mated entities being a "jewel dearly bought" - it requires dedicated, conscious, willful effort towards polarizing on the STO path i.e. crystallizing the heart chakra.
The Higher Self too is without polarity. We choose the polarity, and then the priestess goes that way. And we can't abandon her hand and run back to the other priestess, or, clothe her in a different guise from time to time, because we undo the transformation. The paths are diverging.
Quote:What creates a need to choose in your opinion? To me that is heightened awareness. And then the choice is between the light and the dark in mind, which to me implies that it is love as known to the mind. To me this is what the first quote means, it is the distortion-less version of the archetype. The subsequent maiden/prostitute analogy, is a more colorful image that potentially provide a better opportunity of insight for one who resonates with it.
Yes, the need to choose is created by the heightened awareness given by utilizing the Catalyst/Experience duo. Ra's referring to the previous set of cards as he leads into #6. Is there something else you would say in the imagery of the Lovers card that points to "heightened awareness", other than the closed eyes, since we disagree on their meaning?