05-29-2016, 02:22 PM
(05-29-2016, 01:20 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: I don't believe it's that I have a problem seeing love and not romanticizing the concept, it's that both of you seem to have a problem with unromanticizing the word courting, which is what I've been making attempts to do by discussing it in context between entities that are not sexualized. Yes, we are seeking the "Greater love" but AGAIN this is NOT what the Transformation of the Mind is about. The myriad of triangles in the card represent how the paths split, how polarity splits, how you can be 99+% STO OR 99+% STS. This only has meaning within this system of third density, but the spectrum is meant to be used because that is how electrical charges work: The stronger the polarity, the stronger the charge, the more power one has. It's possible that in your argument you are presenting that you do not desire this "power of polarity" (or Ra calls it the "gift of polarity") because you do not desire to affect change on others. That's fine. But the archetypes are about developing polarity and integrating the mind/body/spirit complex to affect positive change.
Saying that you can have a positive interaction without calling it courting in no way denies polarity. I have spoke of polarity in most of my posts. I have spoke of having positive intent in many ways which I do not relate to courting, but which you seem to have deemed as invalid because of that.
(05-29-2016, 01:20 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:Quote:The transformation here would be to accept to always question myself before any of my acts, because that would be showing respect toward that which I interact with and allow me to move where I am needed more than where I desire to go.
I disagree. My interpretation of Ra is that we are supposed to act first, then balance it later.
I am extremely unsure where the transformation of the mind fits into the process for you. To me acting brings reflection which brings oppourtinity for transformation because of the later balance.
While I did not deny what can be a transformation of the mind for you, you deny what can be one for me. This is something that came from.acting and as I said, I am still in the process of the experience and not yet at the transformation, which would mean to make this my default attitude of acting. You can call it courting, because it implies caring for other-selves and trying to sense what they truly need, if that makes it seem ok to be one when called that.
(05-29-2016, 01:20 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: And you say you decide what is "good" and "bad" but from what point do we determine the relativity of good and bad? Ra uses the romantic angle because it's a subjective signpost: How would you treat the one you love the most? Again, this is still a personally subjective signpost, because some people would chop up and eat the ones they love the most. But if you loved someone and you were trying to court her SO YOU COULD chop her up and eat her, how would you treat her? That is the point of the exercise of the romantic angle.
I don't decide what is good or bad, I open myself to my high priestess to know what my inner feelings are. Because the unconscious mind sees much further and wider than the conscious one.
I didn't dismiss the romantic angle, I have been more baffled at how no other angle can seem to be considered as also valid. But to be fair I doubt my greatest of expression of being in love is the same as yours just as I doubt how I can desire to be treated by someome who loves me to be anything like what you desire yourself.
(05-29-2016, 01:20 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:Quote:I could see you being called to go to McDonald, unlike what you said. Why? Because something that has been plundered of it's resources could help having love poured into it for example. Could need someone loving to tangle with it in this present moment and create a link with it for future moments also. Can need someone to internalize parts of it's traumas to be either worked upon consciously or unconsciously depending on the person. Not saying that you should make a habit of doing this, just that to be truly loving is being open to serve in whatever ways you can be called to serve. Of course if you are unable to feel love for some things that are, then you won't be called to serve them because it will be out of the reach of what you can provide as service.
See, to me, this is just justification to avoid the transformation. There is no secret that McDonald's cares more about profits than resources. I still love McDonald's and accept that there are those who use that system. However, knowing what I know, I am unable in good conscience to participate in that system to procure my food, especially when I have so many other choices of much more positive systems to choose to feed my energy into. This is how I see the transformation: What energies am I choosing to feed? Am I feeding the systems that support prostitution of resources, or am I feeding systems that court their resources and aren't just focused on money and profits, at least to the best of my ability to discern?
Here you completely dismissed the point of my example. I said an entity which has been plundered calls to you so that you can work with it. This can be a one case scenario that happens only once and I doubt the little money you'd give to the restaurant would have any meaning to it.
Like I said, if you are not open to offer service in any way that can be required, then you are avoiding yourself the transformation.
(05-29-2016, 01:20 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: Sure, I might feel called to send love and light to McDonald's, but it's hard to fathom for me how buying a Big Mac would lead to any huge shift in polarization either way, really. But the Transformation is about letting go of the choices that hold you back, the ones that have no net value or even a slight net loss. I see your point but again, in the context of the transformation, it's justifying avoiding it. Of course the prostitute needs love too and healing, too. I'm just not giving her any of my money because I get her services elsewhere.
McDonald isn't the prostitute in what I said.
(05-29-2016, 01:20 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:Quote:You seem to think that the transformation of the Mind is a one time happening process,
Would you point out where I implied this? I'm pretty sure my main point in one of my last posts to Night Owl is that the Transformation of the Mind is basically always available to be utilized, all the time. Life on planet Earth is all about procuring and using resources to sustain our own life, and we are inherently selfish about how we use them because we have been taught to be very concerned about survival.
Well I gave a scenario that works for me and you disagreed with it because it was not courting-centered and not the manner in which you found to love others.