Courting the maiden

[Minyatur]

Well universally, I think there's many couples that don't dwell in a romantic focus in their way to love each other.

No, not when they're young lovers who are in love... This card is about temptation and desire, and sexual temptation and desire are two of the strongest forces in the human condition, so young lovers is a perfect symbolic representation of this concept, with the scantily dressed one on his left, making the left hand path seem more desirable superficially. Instant gratification (shallow) vs delayed gratification (deep).

It is still an image to hint and not the whole of the archetype, what I was trying to say is not that this is not a useful representation but that inability to move beyond one given analogy (that could've been different while not distorting the archetype any more) is unuseful because it is dwelling more in the analogy than the actual archetype which is wordless and could be defined in myriads of ways. The analogy gives direction, not what you need to find.

I also didn't think the analogy is unhelpful, just that if someone doesn't resonate with it, then it need to be broken down and extrapoliated from. In my case I broke it down to say that you have polarized relations with both yourself and others and that the transformation takes place in regard to this. I don't even see how this denies the analogy other than that positive interactions don't equate courting although courting can be seen as one.

While I get that the mated representation can be useful, you are not in a mated relationship with everything yet the archetype does apply to everything, so while it is useful, it also has limits like anything else.

You seem determined to make your personal unfavourable view of romantic love and its elements of passion universally applicable, but I suspect you might have better luck building a snowman in hell. I have to admit this thread has been frustrating to follow sometimes, because I feel a very simple, universally understood analogy that anyone can easily identify with and apply in their understanding of this archetype, has been turned into a whirlpool of confusion.

I don't think romantic love is unfavorable, simply not universal, heavily unique to each, and definitely not the whole of the archetype.

I think building a snowman in hell is much easier than you would think, but still, how would you bring this archetype to someone with an unfavorable view of romantic love? It seems to me the analogy is not universal like you imply while the archetype itself is. It's easy to say the person wouldn't make use of the archetype while it probably does in a different manner than your own.

Courting the positive maiden entails the heart, not the head, which also makes the lovers well suited to this analogy. This love doesn't make a great deal of sense, it's beyond comprehension, you just crave their nearness, and want to share everything with them, and am ever curious about their views and just desire their well being and happiness. It's a light-hearted, non serious, mutually joyful and playful communion.

I said I don't know how many times that an open heart is a unique experience to each, and while I get the importance of the heart, we are still discussing the transformation of the mind. It seems to me that many posts avout this archetype end up disaregarding the whole mind aspect and positionement within the tree of the mind.

The love you feel will dictate the choices you make of transformation, but newly gained awareness will offer the ability to have new choices to make. And it's not like I denied that there is a duality of polarization, I spoke of it in most of my posts.