(10-06-2010, 01:56 PM)unity100 Wrote: letting go of materialism, attachments is not a sign of 'attachment'. it is a universal concept for going towards higher densities. so much universal that, leave aside it being a universal concept among religions and spiritual philosophies of even this world alike (despite they have a lot in disagreement about a lot of other things), even the philosophies that follow negative path dont go near materialism and possessions. they concentrate on control of other individuals.
in short, yes, materialism, material possessions, attachment to these things, are things to be left behind, even if an entity is negative. 'denouncing' being 'attachment' is a proposition that baffles me.
Thank you so much for playing along. I am really enjoying this discussion for the most part. I hope you are too as it brings out the unexpressed to be expressed.
OK. Let's talk about attachment and denouncement of attachment. That is a very interesting topic and worthy of discussion. Not a lot of people really understand that they are one and the same. Part of the same concept just opposite ends. The real Transformation is going beyond the both, the ATTRACTION and the REPULSION. When you are attracted to something you are attached to the outcome, when you are repulsed by something still you are attached to the outcome (because you are still thinking about it). The real NON-ATTACHMENT happens when you are neutral in both situation. Because to you it simply does not matter and you are ready for any outcome so called positive or so called negative. Do you remember the story of two zen monks who met a girl on the way to crossing the river. She wanted to cross the river but could not. The first one just looked away. The second one picked her up and crossed the river. Then placed her back and they both walked away. After a few hours the first one starting condemning the second one about touching a women. The second one just said- I dropped her on the other side of the river a few hours ago but you are still carrying her.
I hope this makes sense...