(10-07-2010, 11:43 AM)Questioner Wrote: I agree that an oligarchy of self-serving elites can, have, and still do manipulate democracy and capitalism.
I agree that competition can be a tool of self-serving elites towards destruction of diversity (the ruthless monopoly model), rather than a continuous learning from one another in aspiration towards excellence in service (the Olympic ideal).
I agree that profit can be a tool of enforced extraction at the cost of those actually doing the productive work.
Agreeing to that, and with all respect, I believe that your insistence that all profit is inherently evil, and that the capitalist system cannot be a tool of service to others, is naive and unwise. With utmost respect, I believe your concerns are a perfect example of loving selflessness unbalanced by the next step up in wisdom. Please notice I am not saying your desire to be loving, to serve others and to seek a just world is naive. I am saying that the intellectual principles you advocate seem to me to be incomplete.
its not 'insistence'. its an axiom. a direct result, a logical result. its not sentimental or something else.
taking more than you give, is, a negative flow. it doesnt matter with what intent you do it, or for what intent you use it. it will still be a negative energetic situation.
the wisdom is in here. no amount of love will change a negative energy flow from being a negative energy flow.
it may offset its consequences. it may prevent any side effects, it may do this or that.
but, taking more than you give, will always be a negative energy flow.
wisdom != negativity.
ie, 5d wisdom does not mean that you go negative, while trying to offset excess love and balance it.
wisdom means, knowledge and understanding of the dance, and acting accordingly.
therefore, from wisdom perspective, nomatter how greatly offset a negative energy flow with love, that energy flow, will keep being a negative energy flow in its core.
Quote:If you've not read Henry Ford's book, I encourage you to do so. Pretty much every concern you have about capitalism, he specifically addresses from the point of view of service to others.
http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/7213/pg7213.html
henry ford's intent in serving others, does not change the fact that he took more than he gave. moreover, it doesnt change the fact that his workers didnt get equal share from what they worked on.
moreover, it doesnt change the fact that, after henry ford is gone, that big company he created, stood as just another big company for minority shareholder benefit, and acted accordingly.
in short - it doesnt matter whether one sets up an empire with the best of intentions and brings luxuries and ease to people. an empire, is still an empire.
Quote:I believe that such black and white thinking is based on sincere concern, which I respect. I also believe the black and white thinking applies concepts that are misinformed and unrealistic. Again, this comes from a great depth of study, meditation, thought and intuitive exploration of these topics for many years. I may well be mistaken, but I'm unlikely to have overlooked the obvious.
Any human system in 3D is imperfect. I believe Ford shows a way to love our neighbor through effective business within a capitalist economy.
there has to be black and white thinking, until early 6d. unfortunately, this is the way this universe was set up. i dont particularly like this situation myself, or find the polarity business efficient and compassionate at all. however, this is the way it is for now, until new things are discovered. moreover, its my understanding that, from what we have been told, the situation wont change in 6d, only just one polarity will remain, but, now with the wisdom of the light.
in addition, at no point i am receptive to being enslaved to any minority, regardless of who that minority happens to be.
however, entities on this planet have to polarize to get to 4d and beyond. just like that, there are other base rules, logic acting just as they were set to act, with no concessions.
that is wisdom. just like how light goes in a straight line unless affected.
if i need to repeat again - a negative flow, is a negative flow. intentions, do not matter, in regard to negative flow. even if one is the purest of all entities that have come and passed from this universe, a negative flow, is still going to remain a negative flow.
Quote:ny human system in 3D is imperfect. I believe Ford shows a way to love our neighbor through effective business within a capitalist economy.
human systems being imperfect doesnt justify setting up and furthering a negative based system in which entities are perfectly 'willingly' enslaved for the benefit of minorities.