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    Thread: Socialism of 4D, Capitalism, Is Money STS?


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    10-07-2010, 08:52 PM
    We all take more energy from the sun than we give to it. Are we, therefore, profiting at the sun's expense? Shall we all have a karmic obligation to return that excess of energy to the Sun, once we arrive at a density of existing as light? After our 3D bodies die, they decompose and return nutrients that can support plant life; do our souls have a karmic obligation of restitution for every plant we ever ate?

    I disagree with your repeated assertion that profit is always taking more than one gives, thus creating a negative imbalance.

    Many of the current dysfunctions of today's economic systems were addressed by Ford. He suggested - and in some cases, implemented - more lovingly concerned alternatives.

    Quote:increased wages... actually, even this didnt come into being at any given point.
    Are you claiming that every historical record of Ford's radical increases of wages and profit sharing is a forgery? That he did not actually radically increase the amount of pay for a day's work compared to what everyone was used to and expected at the time? That his book does not describe an approach to pay for a day's work that radically shifted power away from any kind of hoarding or aristocracy, towards the benefit of workers, their families and communities? That he did not implement that approach and did not believe the tenets he claims in his book? If so, whoever could document such a sham would deserve a major prize in history.

    Quote:light travels in a straight line
    I don't believe that either, by the way. While I readily admit I might be mistaken about physics, based on what I've read and studied, I believe electromagnetic radiation spherically spreads outward in oscillating wavefronts. But that's irrelevant to the question of profit. It is, however, another u100 proclamation without disclaimer. No "it seems to me." No "as far as I understand." No "based on what I've read." No "I might be mistaken, but..." No hint of a humble spirit that recognizes wisdom might be distributed across more than one perception, understanding, or conclusion. This makes it easy to encounter speeches from up high on the pedestal, but difficult to sustain a multiple-way dialogue between equals.

    You seem to be saying - correct me if I'm wrong here - that the very concept and action of profit is, in itself, inherently evil, destructive, coercive, enslaving. That it embodies STS negativity of master/slave relationships upon all humans involved in the profitable transaction. If this is your point, I vigorously disagree. While I agree you've often stated it, I think you're very far from having proven it. It seems you continue to dismiss any evidence to the contrary without really thinking it through.
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    Socialism of 4D, Capitalism, Is Money STS? - by Questioner - 10-05-2010, 11:53 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-05-2010, 11:58 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Questioner - 10-06-2010, 12:28 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-06-2010, 12:07 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by thefool - 10-06-2010, 01:37 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Phoenix - 10-06-2010, 09:11 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by sequoyah - 10-06-2010, 09:38 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Questioner - 10-06-2010, 12:06 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by lightning - 11-02-2010, 04:50 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-06-2010, 01:56 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by thefool - 10-06-2010, 06:14 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-06-2010, 06:38 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Eddie - 10-06-2010, 08:31 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-06-2010, 08:52 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Eddie - 10-06-2010, 08:58 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-06-2010, 09:20 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Etude in B Minor - 10-06-2010, 09:46 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-06-2010, 09:54 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-06-2010, 09:54 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Crimson - 10-06-2010, 10:50 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-06-2010, 10:54 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Crimson - 10-06-2010, 11:40 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-06-2010, 11:46 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Crimson - 10-07-2010, 10:39 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Questioner - 10-07-2010, 12:12 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-07-2010, 12:35 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-07-2010, 12:36 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Questioner - 10-07-2010, 11:43 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-07-2010, 04:21 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-07-2010, 06:13 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-07-2010, 07:26 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-08-2010, 02:54 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-08-2010, 08:20 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Shemaya - 10-07-2010, 12:03 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Questioner - 10-07-2010, 05:25 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Questioner - 10-07-2010, 08:52 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-07-2010, 10:20 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Questioner - 10-08-2010, 11:28 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-08-2010, 12:17 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Aaron - 10-08-2010, 10:36 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-09-2010, 12:58 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-09-2010, 11:26 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-09-2010, 09:21 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-10-2010, 01:12 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-12-2010, 02:08 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Etude in B Minor - 10-11-2010, 04:54 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-09-2010, 03:46 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by thefool - 10-09-2010, 09:56 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by irpsit - 10-09-2010, 05:49 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Questioner - 10-14-2010, 01:42 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-14-2010, 03:47 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by thefool - 10-14-2010, 03:51 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-14-2010, 05:07 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by thefool - 10-15-2010, 10:33 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-15-2010, 11:55 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by thefool - 10-15-2010, 12:19 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-15-2010, 12:32 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by thefool - 10-15-2010, 12:37 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-15-2010, 02:49 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by thefool - 10-15-2010, 03:05 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-15-2010, 03:09 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-15-2010, 06:09 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Crimson - 10-15-2010, 11:30 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 10-17-2010, 08:26 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Crimson - 10-17-2010, 11:01 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by thefool - 10-16-2010, 02:34 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by βαθμιαίος - 10-16-2010, 10:42 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-16-2010, 10:58 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Edinburgh - 05-04-2011, 11:55 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by thefool - 05-04-2011, 01:16 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 05-04-2011, 02:04 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 05-04-2011, 02:42 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 05-04-2011, 03:05 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Confused - 05-04-2011, 07:10 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 05-04-2011, 08:15 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Confused - 05-04-2011, 09:17 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by 3DMonkey - 05-13-2011, 12:36 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 05-16-2011, 04:55 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by 3DMonkey - 05-16-2011, 07:07 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Monica - 05-16-2011, 07:49 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by BlatzAdict - 10-16-2010, 02:20 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by CircleofOne - 10-16-2010, 12:40 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 10-19-2010, 02:29 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by Crimson - 10-19-2010, 11:31 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 11-02-2010, 05:25 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by seacrane - 11-02-2010, 06:37 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D - by unity100 - 11-02-2010, 06:51 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D, Capitalism, Is Money STS? - by 3DMonkey - 05-04-2011, 12:45 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D, Capitalism, Is Money STS? - by 3DMonkey - 05-04-2011, 07:24 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D, Capitalism, Is Money STS? - by Confused - 05-04-2011, 07:28 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D, Capitalism, Is Money STS? - by thefool - 05-13-2011, 07:05 AM
    RE: Socialism of 4D, Capitalism, Is Money STS? - by 3DMonkey - 05-16-2011, 07:56 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D, Capitalism, Is Money STS? - by Monica - 05-16-2011, 07:59 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D, Capitalism, Is Money STS? - by vbaba - 06-04-2011, 07:33 PM
    RE: Socialism of 4D, Capitalism, Is Money STS? - by 3DMonkey - 06-04-2011, 08:00 PM
    Capitalism - by Unbound - 04-29-2011, 10:51 PM
    RE: Capitalism - by kycahi - 04-30-2011, 02:45 AM
    RE: Capitalism - by kycahi - 04-29-2011, 11:13 PM
    RE: Capitalism - by 3DMonkey - 04-29-2011, 11:18 PM
    RE: Capitalism - by Unbound - 04-29-2011, 11:21 PM
    RE: Capitalism - by 3DMonkey - 04-29-2011, 11:23 PM
    RE: Capitalism - by Aaron - 04-30-2011, 12:34 AM
    RE: Capitalism - by Monica - 04-30-2011, 12:37 AM

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