08-04-2016, 11:10 PM
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(08-04-2016, 10:47 PM)Lodro Wrote: If i could make a suggestion, i would recommend reading it first then listening to the videos. Otherwise i think your impressions and 'resonator' could be tainted by the information from the videos. Sort of like watching the movie before you read the book. when you do that you picture the people in the movie when you read. just a thought. Also, I just finished the books for a second run through and had a very different experience. i got so much more of the material the second time around. things i could not believe i missed. best of luck to you and thank you for starting this discussion.
Sorry late to the party but wanted to chime in as a gay man (and native earth or maybe mars person) that has been in a wonderful relationship for 20+ years with an amazing wanderer. I have only listened to a few of the videos. I've read the material twice now. I took it a bit hard when i read the parts about us in the material too. upon reflection the part about changing gender life after life resonated with me. Honestly i think i can even buy into the whole overpopulation thing. mother nature has her way of making things work out. The language in the books isn't what we would use in modern day and seems a bit harsh now, but i feel the same way when i watch something or read a book from 20+ years ago. Our attitudes have changed, thank goodness. In 20 more they will be even more different.
But it seems to me that Ra speaks in a fashion that can be understood at the time, just like they did with the Egyptians. And as others have mentioned, i think working through an instrument is sort of like drawing a picture when you only have 3 or 4 colors of crayon. you have to work with what's in there. if you have blue and yellow you can sort of make green but not really. \
I still believe much of the Ra material, if not all (the stuff about bigfoot gives me pause). However, i do believe that I planned this life with the partner i have to learn the lesson of love as only he could teach it. I believe that he and i chose this life to avoid the karmic entanglement of children, and to allow us to focus on our own work. It's the perfect fit for us. We can still care for others without the constant distraction of children. I believe he came with me on this journey to teach me about love, for surely i didn't believe it existed before we met and told him as much. So for me, while it may be true that people are sometimes gay because mother nature is evening out the herd, or i've been a female too much (i do have a little bit of a bias here that makes me think this is true.).
For me, what causes it isn't really the important part. if you go back far enough heterosexuality may have come about because snails figured out how to penetrate each other. who knows. But now that it happened there is the option when we incarnate to choose this lifestyle. now i know that is not the popular way to say that but i do believe it was one of my pre-incarnative choices. I believe i chose this and my husband. I have so many biases even as a gay man that i suspect this was supposed to help me to have empathy for people who are discriminated against. I like to think it has worked. Suffering makes empaths of us all, especially when we see our suffering in others. I would also agree that as gay people we do learn some "life skills" as a result of living this way and learning these lessons that can give us the propensity to go down dark paths; drugs, co dependency, just being plain mean. No different than lots of other types of people who struggle. it's all about how we react to it.
so all in all i agree with the kind other selves that have said take what resonates with you and try not to be to put out by other's ignorance. And if you don't like the version of things that Ra provided look within and there find what your heart tells you. that's where everyone keeps telling me the truth lies
