Is the Islamic Allah a social memory complex?

[Cyclops]

Questioner: Then Yahweh’s communications did not help or did not create what Yahweh wished for them to create. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. The results of this interaction were quite mixed. Where the entities were of a vibrational sum characteristic which embraced oneness, the manipulations of Yahweh were very useful. Wherein the entities of free will had chosen a less positively oriented configuration of sum total vibratory complex, those of the Orion group were able for the first time to make serious inroads upon the consciousness of the planetary complex.

18.25 Questioner: Can you tell me specifically what allowed the most serious of these inroads to be made by the Orion group?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the final full question.

Specifically those who are strong, intelligent, etc., have a temptation to feel different from those who are less intelligent and less strong. This is a distorted perception of oneness with other-selves. It allowed the Orion group to form the concept of the holy war, as you may call it. This is a seriously distorted perception. There were many of these wars of a destructive nature.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad
http://www.oxfordislamicstudies.com/arti.../t125/e490

people argue for the spiritual inner jihad, and the outer jihad(conquest), muhammad the messenger of islam was heavily involved in conquest and holy war basically, even so far as to take human slaves. the spread of islam was by war, just like christianity in the old days.

Quran (2:191-193)- "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...

but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."


Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

 there are endless verses in the hadith and the quran which advocate holy war until people are converted or killed.

and also the concept of tawhid "Oneness" seems like an orion distorted version of the all inclusive Law of One. Tawhid is the backbone of islam. it describes god as separate from creation, alone and transcendent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawhid


http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage//index...E&Id=90180
"Saying that the universe exists in Allaah is a statement of disbelief and falsehood and it is contradictory to the creed of Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaa'ah. Similarly, saying that all the souls [or spirits] are a part of Allaah is a statement of disbelief, Glorified and Exalted is Allaah! High above (the great falsehood) that they say.



Shaykh Al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah may Allaah have mercy upon him said: 'Allaah is separate from His Creatures, and His Creatures are separate from him and there is no transfer that means the emptying of a space and the filling of another, as He is The One Who is separate from His Creatures.' "

the most unforgivable sin in islam is shirk.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirk_%28Islam%29

if you search around, the current shia and sunni interpretations of islam would view the Law of One as pantheism and if you search around alot of muslims would comment this is a form of shirk. only sufi muslims which are the smallest minority believe to something close to the Law of One that Ra mentions.



the below conversion is most likely analogous to what Muhammad went through when receiving the communication.

Questioner: Can you tell me the origin of the Ten Commandments?

Ra: I am Ra. The origin of these commandments follows the law of negative entities impressing information upon positively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes. The information attempted to copy or ape positivity while retaining negative characteristics.
16.16 Questioner: Was this done by the Orion group?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
16.17 Questioner: What was their purpose in doing this?
Ra: I am Ra. The purpose of the Orion group, as mentioned before, is conquest and enslavement. This is done by finding and establishing an elite and causing others to serve the elite through various devices such as the laws you mention and others given by this entity.
16.18 Questioner: Was the recipient of the laws… of the Ten Commandments positively or negatively oriented?
Ra: The recipient was one of extreme positivity, thus accounting for some of the pseudo-positive characteristics of the information received. As with contacts which are not successful, this entity, vibratory complex, Moishe, did not remain a credible influence among those who had first heard the philosophy of One and this entity was removed from this third-density vibratory level in a lessened or saddened state, having lost what you may call the honor and faith with which he had begun the conceptualization of the Law of One and the freeing of those who were of his tribes, as they were called at that time/space.
16.19 Questioner: If this entity was positively oriented, how was the Orion group able to contact him?
Ra: I am Ra. This was an intensive, shall we say, battleground between positively oriented forces of Confederation origin and negatively oriented sources. The one called Moishe was open to impression and received the Law of One in its most simple form. However, the information became negatively oriented due to his people’s pressure to do specific physical things in the third-density planes. This left the entity open for the type of information and philosophy of a self-service nature.
16.20 Questioner: It would be unlike an entity fully aware of the knowledge of the Law of One to ever say “Thou shalt not.” Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

My opinion from everything I read so far is that orion basically took over the religion, muhammad went on the offensive to spread the orion version because of his desires and his people's desires.

http://www.meforum.org/1754/peace-or-jih...n-in-islam

old peaceful verses of the quran are suddenly null and void with newer more violent verses replacing them, sanctioned and given to muhammad from allah, which I think at this point was orion.

26.7 Questioner: Which has more of the Law of One in it, the Old Testament or the New Testament?

Ra: I am Ra. Withdrawing from each of the collections of which you speak the portions having to do with the Law of One, the content is approximately equal. However, the so-called Old Testament has a larger amount of negatively influenced material, as you would call it.
26.8 Questioner: Can you tell me about what percentage is Orion-influenced in both the Old and the New Testaments?

Ra: We prefer that this be left to the discretion of those who seek the Law of One. We are not speaking in order to judge. Such statements would be construed by some of those who may read this material as judgmental. We can only suggest a careful reading and inward digestion of the contents. The understandings will become obvious.

Q'uo Sunday Meditation March 25, 2007

The problems resulting from the Koran are the same problems resulting from a good, solid reading of the Old Testament and those two works should be considered together when forming an opinion concerning these matters, for there is much in all the literature, not only of the Koran and the Old Testament but in those books and writings which did not make it into the final versions of those sacred works but had a good deal of information along those lines to share about this creation of the “One God” which, instead of being the one infinite Creator, was a kind of artifact made up of those of one of the groups that were guardians of your planet in an attempt to create a more spiritually capable human being.

Those whom they altered genetically, prior to placing them upon this planet in times gone by, they felt the need to follow. It is ironic, indeed, my friends, that those in your Middle East—the followers of Jesus, the followers of Yahweh, and the followers of Allah—are in a state of mortal combat.

We would suggest that it would be helpful to look for the positive gifts of the one known as Mohammed in the mysticism of the Sufi’s, just as one may most likely find the most positive aspects of the Old Testament writing and prophets in that small circle of entities who have worked with the Kabala to develop the Tree of Life. In both cases the outer husks of religion, the dogma, the exclusiveness, and so forth, have been cast aside to get to the heart of the fruit of spirituality which is the same in any religion or system of worship.

so the current sunni and shia dominated interpretations of islam i take to be basically worshiping the orion ideology since sufis are seen as infidels largely among the muslim world today.

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...#pid189883
older post of mine, contains a link to another thread that happened here where 2 muslims argued with each other that might have some info for this thread.

there is more I can dig up and post, the quran and hadiths list so many laws and controls on a person termed a muslim that often times is threatened with punishment in life and more punishments in the afterlife for disobeying them, if this isn't the classic orion theme, then i don't know what is.