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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date!

    Thread: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date!


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    08-10-2016, 01:05 PM
    (08-09-2016, 11:56 PM)Chandlersdad Wrote: Well, that's the problem. How can you really just pick and choose.

    There is an important metaphysical point about "history" I'd like to make, although it is technically not in the Ra Material.  (Go to the Seth Material for source.)  

    In as few words as possible (I'll try).

    History is neither linear, nor fixed.  The only true "time" is now.  What we think of as "history" is actually consensus history but, in metaphysical fact, there are many (many many infinitely many) probable histories.  We collectively pick the one we want to believe in from the NOW.

    For ET or astral plane sources speaking to us through channels, this presents a bit of a conundrum.  Because they see our "history" as a wave function of probabilities that we have (not unanimously) chosen to view as only one true or "real" history.  But to them all the others are equally real because they too really did occur.  (See multiverse theory in physics.)  So even really big historical things like the crucifixion of Christ, are actually described quite differently by different channeled sources.  From, yes it did happen as the bible says, to no, Christ went on to live in India to a nice old age.  The sources are not trying to deceive, but they have a hard time correctly selecting the psychologically "real" consensus history that we have chosen to believe in.  And when you add the complication of dates, it gets only worse. . . .

    There are groups of people who pay attention to, and report, "time shifts" and other reality glitches in our everyday consensus reality.  Things like celebrity deaths, when we "recall" that same celebrity death being announced in the past.  We dismiss these as "I guess I mis-remembered" but metaphysically, it is kinda accepted that the person who remembers differently has "shifted" time streams to a slightly different consensus reality.

    Nether the past nor the future are "fixed."  They are equally subjective and probabilistic.  The only point of power is the present.  Everything else is imaginary.

    If you come to channeled material with an assumption that the past is fixed and unchangeable, (modern scientific method) then you are using a method that does not work in metaphysical environments (try astral projecting to a physical place and you will discover that it is ALWAYS different, see Robert Monroe) and it is a method that does not accurately describe "the past."  It is unwise to try and validate channeled material in this way.  It won't work.

    I personally doubted Ra until book 4 when they started talking about tarot.  I am a tarot reader and I had already been moving way off the beaten path in knowing what those cards mean.  But when I read Ra's descriptions of the meanings and purpose of the cards I KNEW IT WAS CORRECT.  I watched Don and group struggle mightily with some concepts and meanings, so I knew they were not "injecting" their own beliefs into the material.  But I totally got what Ra was saying.  It is the singular clearest best description of the esoteric tarot, bar none.  

    So, does the fact that book 4 is "true" to me mean that I have to accept as true everything in books 1, 2, 3 and 5?  No.  But it sure makes me think long and hard before I reject those other teachings.

    Ra repeatedly warned the group that focusing on transient information jeopardized the connection to Ra and such focusing also brought through the channel less-clear and less trustworthy information.  Historical walk-in information is that very kind of trivia.  I personally discount most of the voyeuristic questions that Don asked about historical figures, and Ra's answers to them.  There is no such things a "singular" person to describe.  Ask my mother about me and there will be a thousand contradictory truths.  Because does she describe me as a 4 year old?  20?  Before my spiritual experience of after?  Me now?  All of the above?  You can play this scenario out for yourself and see why it is fundamentally silly to ask about historical figures.  The answers have to be so averaged over the entire lifetime of the historical figure that they become platitudes or generic cardboard descriptions without useful specific content.

    If you cannot pick and choose from channeled information, even when the channel expressly and unambiguously says that that is exactly what you need to do, then I suggest you might still be carrying around some unconscious scientific method thinking to the table.  The scientific method is for physics, not metaphysics.  (It's not for quantum physics either, but that is a totally different discussion!) The "truth method" of metaphysics is psychological truth not reproducible truth.  It is, inherently and fundamentally, an act of faith.  The touchstone for metaphysical truth lies within.  See: tarot card zero (the fool), tarot card two (the high priestess), tarot card 17 (the star), tarot card 18 (the moon).

    Sorry to take so many words.  It's a hard topic to condense.  
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    Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Chandlersdad - 08-09-2016, 06:45 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by ricdaw - 08-09-2016, 06:53 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Patrick - 08-09-2016, 09:39 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Chandlersdad - 08-09-2016, 11:56 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by ricdaw - 08-10-2016, 01:05 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by BlatzAdict - 08-10-2016, 04:09 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Chandlersdad - 08-10-2016, 07:14 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Chandlersdad - 08-10-2016, 07:08 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Steppingfeet - 08-11-2016, 10:36 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by APeacefulWarrior - 08-11-2016, 11:12 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by ricdaw - 08-11-2016, 01:35 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by APeacefulWarrior - 08-11-2016, 02:54 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Chandlersdad - 08-14-2016, 06:19 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by APeacefulWarrior - 08-15-2016, 02:22 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Chandlersdad - 08-14-2016, 06:13 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by ricdaw - 08-11-2016, 01:16 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Steppingfeet - 08-17-2016, 11:03 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by ricdaw - 08-17-2016, 05:30 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by herald - 08-15-2016, 12:34 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Jade - 08-10-2016, 12:34 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Chandlersdad - 08-10-2016, 02:40 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by sjel - 08-10-2016, 02:51 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Jade - 08-10-2016, 10:22 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by APeacefulWarrior - 08-10-2016, 03:07 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Steppingfeet - 08-10-2016, 10:26 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by anagogy - 08-10-2016, 01:11 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by APeacefulWarrior - 08-10-2016, 01:48 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Cyclops - 08-11-2016, 02:09 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Verum Occultum - 08-11-2016, 03:19 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by AnthroHeart - 08-12-2016, 12:00 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by anagogy - 08-13-2016, 08:54 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by herald - 08-15-2016, 12:53 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Steppingfeet - 08-17-2016, 11:06 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Jade - 08-17-2016, 12:29 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by YinYang - 08-17-2016, 02:08 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Jade - 08-17-2016, 04:18 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by YinYang - 08-17-2016, 05:01 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Jade - 08-17-2016, 05:28 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by YinYang - 08-17-2016, 05:49 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by ricdaw - 08-17-2016, 06:38 PM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by YinYang - 08-18-2016, 03:01 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Mahakali - 08-18-2016, 03:24 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by YinYang - 08-18-2016, 03:25 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Billy - 08-18-2016, 06:27 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by Jade - 08-24-2016, 12:20 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by YinYang - 08-18-2016, 07:58 AM
    RE: Session 35 - Abraham Lincoln Walk-In - Wrong Date! - by ada - 08-24-2016, 12:30 AM

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