10-11-2010, 01:56 AM
Hey Quantum and friends,
What a terrific read this thread has been. It took me about an hour to read it all... pure joy. Please continue, Quantum, with your threads of such open ended and thought encouraging nature.
I have a thought that may tie in well to the concept of suffering, and if there is merit to this thought as I think there may be, there could be interesting implications for our collective understandings. I can reduce it to a question, that being: "What's the hurry?" As I recall from reading through the LOO books, Ra described the conditions prior to the veiling as extremely sluggish at the 3rd density stage of development. Because it was known that all is one, there was little impetus to polarize strongly in one direction or the other. But, but, but... there is an implication in this that a shorter amount of time spent in 3rd density is some how more desirable than a longer time (or less number of 3rd d. cycles being better than more). But... why?
If I were to not graduate to either camp of service at the end of this cycle, or at the end of the next 10,000 cycles, would it make much difference? What would happen to my soul, surely my cosmic batteries will not expire? Or am I in some way racing to keep up with the lifespan of the galactic logos, hoping to have evolved before it "dies" at the end of it's long, tens of billions of years long life? I would probably be transferred to some other galaxy I should suppose, but if I am determined to persist in my folly until the end of that galaxy, what then?
I'm moving slightly off the rails of the threads subject, but I find it peripherally relevant in that the veiling, and subsequent suffering (I agree with your assessment, 3D S.) seems to imply that we should move it along in at least a somewhat faster way than is possible. And if we are correct so far, I think this must be an incredibly important reason. Please let me know what you think!
Also,
Ricdaw, when I read your post (#11), and especially the above quoted text I felt a strong resonance. What you have described has certainly been my experience as well. When you can discern early and learn what it is you are trying to teach yourself, you can 'nib it in the bud' so to say and eliminate greater suffering. Of course as fallible 3rd density souls I'm not sure that many will eliminate ALL suffering from their lives, but we can perhaps eliminate the need to experience most of it. Another quote comes to mind, from who I cannot remember. But it goes something like "How do you tell if you have already completed your life's work? If you're still living you haven't, yet."
Thanks so much for this riveting discussion, I think these and others are what really make this place so amazing.
Love and Light, beaucoup!
~Lavazza
What a terrific read this thread has been. It took me about an hour to read it all... pure joy. Please continue, Quantum, with your threads of such open ended and thought encouraging nature.
I have a thought that may tie in well to the concept of suffering, and if there is merit to this thought as I think there may be, there could be interesting implications for our collective understandings. I can reduce it to a question, that being: "What's the hurry?" As I recall from reading through the LOO books, Ra described the conditions prior to the veiling as extremely sluggish at the 3rd density stage of development. Because it was known that all is one, there was little impetus to polarize strongly in one direction or the other. But, but, but... there is an implication in this that a shorter amount of time spent in 3rd density is some how more desirable than a longer time (or less number of 3rd d. cycles being better than more). But... why?
If I were to not graduate to either camp of service at the end of this cycle, or at the end of the next 10,000 cycles, would it make much difference? What would happen to my soul, surely my cosmic batteries will not expire? Or am I in some way racing to keep up with the lifespan of the galactic logos, hoping to have evolved before it "dies" at the end of it's long, tens of billions of years long life? I would probably be transferred to some other galaxy I should suppose, but if I am determined to persist in my folly until the end of that galaxy, what then?
I'm moving slightly off the rails of the threads subject, but I find it peripherally relevant in that the veiling, and subsequent suffering (I agree with your assessment, 3D S.) seems to imply that we should move it along in at least a somewhat faster way than is possible. And if we are correct so far, I think this must be an incredibly important reason. Please let me know what you think!
Also,
(10-05-2010, 07:52 PM)ricdaw Wrote: Repeating this mental exercise over and over does a strange thing too: it increases flow. Things get easy. Suffering gets smaller. Since you begin to “decode” smaller and smaller catalyst (why did I cut my finger?) you get the message sooner and sooner. And thus you get to avoid the escalation that is done to get your attention.
Ricdaw, when I read your post (#11), and especially the above quoted text I felt a strong resonance. What you have described has certainly been my experience as well. When you can discern early and learn what it is you are trying to teach yourself, you can 'nib it in the bud' so to say and eliminate greater suffering. Of course as fallible 3rd density souls I'm not sure that many will eliminate ALL suffering from their lives, but we can perhaps eliminate the need to experience most of it. Another quote comes to mind, from who I cannot remember. But it goes something like "How do you tell if you have already completed your life's work? If you're still living you haven't, yet."
Thanks so much for this riveting discussion, I think these and others are what really make this place so amazing.
Love and Light, beaucoup!
~Lavazza