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    08-13-2016, 12:38 AM (This post was last modified: 08-13-2016, 01:01 AM by unir 1. Edit Reason: even more mistakes )
    Verum, before I go on to the actual reply, let me elaborate on that statement I made earlier:

    "While there is a difference between density experience, no density experience beyond our own can be understood by a third-density being."

    When I wrote this, specifically the part saying "density experience beyond our own ," I was thinking about the higher densities like the fourth, fifth, etc.

    In essence, and to recap, I was stating that no third-density human could understand the sort of experience that is the fourth density, the fifth density, etc.


    That's what I understood from Ra in a certain few sessions/answers. Mostly that we graduate from this density to the next, so I understood that this implied we cannot know another density experience until we've met the prerequisite: graduation to the next density, or placement in a different density (for Wanderers who are not particularly native to the 4th-density).


    Despite what you've written, I'm still not fully convinced otherwise. I'd agree that this isn't the most important matter when it comes to the Ra Material...
    Anyways, these Ra quotes/answers might not be all of the answers that gave me my impression, but they're the ones I can remember, and they nevertheless played their part in shaping the idea:

    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. To speak of that which sixth-density social memory complexes labor within in order to advance is at best misprision of plain communication for much is lost in transmission of concept from density to density, and the discussion of sixth density is inevitably distorted greatly. [...]

    (64.6)

    I take it that sixth-density experience can hardly be understood, if at all, or properly described to a third-density entity.


    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. We ask you to consider as we speak that there are no words for positively describing fourth density. We can only explain what is not and approximate what is. Beyond fourth density our ability grows more limited still until we become without words.


    That which fourth density is not: it is not of words, unless chosen. It is not of heavy chemical vehicles for body complex activities. It is not of disharmony within self. It is not of disharmony within peoples. It is not within limits of possibility to cause disharmony in any way.

    Approximations of positive statements: it is a plane of a type of bipedal vehicle which is much denser and more full of life; it is a plane wherein one is aware of the thoughts of other-selves; it is a plane where one is aware of the vibrations of other-selves; it is a plane of compassion and understanding of the sorrows of third density; it is a plane striving towards wisdom or light; it is a plane wherein individual differences are pronounced although automatically harmonized by group consensus.

    (16.50)

    I mean...can you honestly say you're ever in fourth density if you're incarnate on Earth as one of us? There are dual-activated bodies, and certain, presumably psychic experiences which....well, I'll talk about the dual-activated bodies in my next post.


    Quote:Ra: You must see the Earth, as you call it, as being seven Earths. There is red, orange, yellow, and there will soon be a completed green color vibratory locus for fourth-density entities which they will call Earth. During the fourth-density experience, due to the lack of development of fourth-density entities, the third-density planetary sphere is not useful for habitation since the early fourth-density entity will not know precisely how to maintain the illusion that fourth density cannot be seen or determined from any instrumentation available to any third density.


    Thus in fourth density the red, orange, and green energy nexi of your planet will be activated while the yellow is in potentiation along with the blue and the indigo.

    May we ask at this time if there be any brief queries?

    (62.29)

    If I activated the astral body, which can be understood to be the green-ray energy body, ...would I see fourth-density entities or understand fourth-density experience? I haven't done that, but I reckon if I did activate an energy body such as that one which corresponds to a color-ray higher than the yellow-ray, it would be an out-of-body experience certainly.

    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. This query is misguided, for experience in fourth density is emphatically not the same as third-density experience. [...]

    (43.29)

    So...
    These gave me the impression that higher densities are far more different than what we could imagine or experience. Well, mostly the first quote gave me that impression. There are other answers from Ra, ones that talk about densities and energy bodies, that led me to believe that "we"—that is, each and every one of us as human individuals—are only ever within third-density, possessing the consciousness typical of third density. And I concluded that until the bond to the third-density body is no more (the death of the body, but if the entity is harvestable, there is no true need to return to the third density through reincarnation), we will always be within third-density.

    Allow me to elaborate on this point about the afterlife.

    The answers Ra gives concerning post-death have led me to believe that even after a human dies, he/she is within third-density: the entity is simply upon the inner planes, the metaphysical plane, undergoing review or healing with their very own indigo-ray body being activated immediately after the deactivation of the yellow-ray/third-density body (47.11)...or in other words, it activates after the "death" of the third-density entity.
    So: a human dies, they go to the metaphysical plane of 3D (Aleister Crowley for example again ("your inner planes"): 18.10) with their indigo-ray body activated. That's what I understand.

    There is an exception. If the will of the entity is so strongly focused on it's, now gone, life that the mind/body/spirit complex basically becomes a "ghost". (47.13)

    (I'm still upset that I put this off for more than a week.)

    As for understanding an experience of the lower densities...well, see, that's where I'm technically wrong.

    I reckon we constantly understand what the lower densities are like, since the first two densities concern the use of the mind/body, with an overlaid third-density energy body (which is an activated body as long as the human is either alive or "conscious" of third density...) ....as I was saying, we exist in the first two densities automatically with an overlaid third-density body upon the previous two (but the 3D body is most noticeably upon the second-density (or "orange-ray") body) and this setup enables individual self-awareness and will, and enables a sort of "interface" or an interesting realm of learning which centers around the self & other-self and self as seen in relation to the concept of other-selves.

    Finally, I want to point out that "overlaid" concept. It's what I imagine acts as a filter for third-density entities when they activate the higher energy bodies. It effectively keeps an entity in "3D", making every experience a third-density one, making every energy body experience one to add in front of the overarching question, "have you committed to a single, harvestable service yet?"

    --
    I got lost with what I had to do in this thread. Luckily I divided my task and clarified on a part that kept messing me up. It's finally out of the way. I will reply to your post as soon as I can, Verum. A lot of it is already written, I got the hang of it, but if I delay again... :@ my apologies (yes I read that last post).
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    RA's distortions - by GentleReckoning - 07-27-2016, 10:42 PM
    RE: RA's distortions - by unir 1 - 07-28-2016, 01:47 AM
    RE: RA's distortions - by sjel - 07-28-2016, 01:52 AM
    RE: Ra's distortions - by spero - 07-28-2016, 10:05 AM
    RE: RA's distortions - by GentleReckoning - 07-28-2016, 03:08 PM
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    RE: RA's distortions - by unir 1 - 07-28-2016, 06:22 PM
    RE: RA's distortions - by ada - 07-28-2016, 07:07 PM
    RE: RA's distortions - by unir 1 - 07-28-2016, 10:21 PM
    RE: Ra's distortions - by ada - 07-28-2016, 10:41 PM
    RE: RA's distortions - by unir 1 - 07-29-2016, 04:59 AM
    RE: Ra's distortions - by ada - 07-29-2016, 08:30 AM
    RE: RA's distortions - by unir 1 - 07-29-2016, 01:40 PM
    RE: Ra's distortions - by Verum Occultum - 07-31-2016, 05:59 PM
    RE: RA's distortions - by unir 1 - 08-02-2016, 01:44 AM
    RE: RA's distortions - by Brian_Sanchez - 07-29-2016, 03:30 AM
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    RE: Ra's distortions - by spero - 08-02-2016, 04:16 AM
    RE: Ra's distortions - by Verum Occultum - 08-02-2016, 08:20 AM
    RE: Ra's distortions - by anagogy - 08-02-2016, 08:24 PM
    RE: Ra's distortions - by unir 1 - 08-13-2016, 12:38 AM
    RE: Verum's Post - by unir 1 - 08-15-2016, 05:50 AM
    RE: Ra's distortions - by Verum Occultum - 08-15-2016, 09:53 AM
    RE: Ra's distortions - by herald - 08-15-2016, 05:09 PM
    RE: RA's distortions - by Minyatur - 08-02-2016, 08:44 AM
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