10-14-2010, 04:58 PM
The confusion of some, regarding the octave end comes from missing to differentiate in between the central sun, logos, and infinity.
Merging with infinite intelligence from any point, does not make that point, infinite intelligence itself.
Even, it doesnt make that point actually its manifestation, or focusing, 'the creator'.
Remember what Ra says about what black holes are -> there are points from which entities merge with infinite intelligence. There are more than 1 black hole manifesting in this universe. is any of them the central, first logos ?
now, there are a few important considerations regarding the octave end. and curious ones too.
first, there are infinite octaves. we are given this information by Ra regarding octaves. they speak of the earlier one, the later one, and even wanderers who come from there. also they speak of the possibility of infinite octaves. (and according to what they say regarding infinity, it has to be so).
so then. if there is an earlier octave, and later octave, and all entities in this octave coalesce in the central sun at the end of THIS octave, is the central sun something that experiences octaves ?
there is an earlier octave, and later octave, so there are even entities coming from those octaves. that means, time is not a component in between these as such, since, for a wanderer of the later octave to be present in this octave with current octave's logos (and probably, the entity's own probable past), the central sun has to be present in both octaves. but, is it the same central sun, or, is it the 'future state' of the central sun, that is present in this octave, like how a 3rd density entity's higher self, can look back to its 3rd self and help it ?
this is a curious situation. for, if the latter is true, then, it means that the central logos of this creation is an entity that experiences time, or its equivalent in regard to progress, octaves.
but then there is infinite intelligence of which, this central sun is a focus of. then, where is the infinite intelligence, in regard to these octaves ?
since, everything has to be ensuing from infinite intelligence, and, a later octave be present at the time of this octave, and a wanderer coming back from that octave, there has to exist an experience nexus, a creation, as the next octave, simultaneous (in grand scale, losing the concept of this octave's time) with this one. even if it is in 'future'.
infinite intelligence has to be present in both these octaves at the same time. if not, the 'infinite' prefix in front of it, would not hold meaning. moreover, it has to be present in both these octaves, because, any manifesting 'existing' thing comes from it.
so, that means, infinite intelligence is not something that experiences octaves. it is present in infinite octaves, and infinite universes those octaves have, all at the same time. including, whatever infinite forms of manifestation and existence, there is, that we dont know.
then what does all these make the great central sun at the center of this octave's existence ? if it is not infinite intelligence itself ?
it is just what it is, as we are told -> it is a focus of the infinite intelligence, and we know it as 'creator'.
the focus that infinite intelligence found here, in whatever strength, is manifesting and flowing into this octave, creation, through that central sun. and it is finding infinite numbers of lesser focuses, and creating infinite numbers of sublogoi, manifestations, universes, realities, parallel existences and as such.
we, all that exists in this creation, octave, are basically that logos. ie, the intelligent energy that is manifesting in this creation, we all, make up that one central sun.
when all possibilities are discovered here, all the refractions that we have are experienced, we start to coalesce in the manner we have spread out from that one central focal point, combining to each other in whatever manner we will do (not necessarily in order, or manner we have spread out at the start of the octave), and merge at one central point in which we have spread out into this octave like a heartbeat.
merged with infinite intelligence, we will be. and probably out of any octave, manifestation.
then, in infinite time, we will find another focus point, and again, like a heartbeat, spread into another existence, manifestation, from a single point like we did before. that will be the start of another octave.
and, this is happening in infinite manners - infinite intelligence is finding infinite focuses, and infinite octaves and their universes are being manifested, and unmanifested, at any given 'moment' of existence.
what is infinite intelligence doing, is, experiencing and discovering infinity.
therefore, confusing 'the creator', the focus point of infinite intelligence, with infinite intelligence itself, and, infinite intelligence, with infinity itself, would be incorrect.
Merging with infinite intelligence from any point, does not make that point, infinite intelligence itself.
Even, it doesnt make that point actually its manifestation, or focusing, 'the creator'.
Remember what Ra says about what black holes are -> there are points from which entities merge with infinite intelligence. There are more than 1 black hole manifesting in this universe. is any of them the central, first logos ?
now, there are a few important considerations regarding the octave end. and curious ones too.
first, there are infinite octaves. we are given this information by Ra regarding octaves. they speak of the earlier one, the later one, and even wanderers who come from there. also they speak of the possibility of infinite octaves. (and according to what they say regarding infinity, it has to be so).
so then. if there is an earlier octave, and later octave, and all entities in this octave coalesce in the central sun at the end of THIS octave, is the central sun something that experiences octaves ?
there is an earlier octave, and later octave, so there are even entities coming from those octaves. that means, time is not a component in between these as such, since, for a wanderer of the later octave to be present in this octave with current octave's logos (and probably, the entity's own probable past), the central sun has to be present in both octaves. but, is it the same central sun, or, is it the 'future state' of the central sun, that is present in this octave, like how a 3rd density entity's higher self, can look back to its 3rd self and help it ?
this is a curious situation. for, if the latter is true, then, it means that the central logos of this creation is an entity that experiences time, or its equivalent in regard to progress, octaves.
but then there is infinite intelligence of which, this central sun is a focus of. then, where is the infinite intelligence, in regard to these octaves ?
since, everything has to be ensuing from infinite intelligence, and, a later octave be present at the time of this octave, and a wanderer coming back from that octave, there has to exist an experience nexus, a creation, as the next octave, simultaneous (in grand scale, losing the concept of this octave's time) with this one. even if it is in 'future'.
infinite intelligence has to be present in both these octaves at the same time. if not, the 'infinite' prefix in front of it, would not hold meaning. moreover, it has to be present in both these octaves, because, any manifesting 'existing' thing comes from it.
so, that means, infinite intelligence is not something that experiences octaves. it is present in infinite octaves, and infinite universes those octaves have, all at the same time. including, whatever infinite forms of manifestation and existence, there is, that we dont know.
then what does all these make the great central sun at the center of this octave's existence ? if it is not infinite intelligence itself ?
it is just what it is, as we are told -> it is a focus of the infinite intelligence, and we know it as 'creator'.
the focus that infinite intelligence found here, in whatever strength, is manifesting and flowing into this octave, creation, through that central sun. and it is finding infinite numbers of lesser focuses, and creating infinite numbers of sublogoi, manifestations, universes, realities, parallel existences and as such.
we, all that exists in this creation, octave, are basically that logos. ie, the intelligent energy that is manifesting in this creation, we all, make up that one central sun.
when all possibilities are discovered here, all the refractions that we have are experienced, we start to coalesce in the manner we have spread out from that one central focal point, combining to each other in whatever manner we will do (not necessarily in order, or manner we have spread out at the start of the octave), and merge at one central point in which we have spread out into this octave like a heartbeat.
merged with infinite intelligence, we will be. and probably out of any octave, manifestation.
then, in infinite time, we will find another focus point, and again, like a heartbeat, spread into another existence, manifestation, from a single point like we did before. that will be the start of another octave.
and, this is happening in infinite manners - infinite intelligence is finding infinite focuses, and infinite octaves and their universes are being manifested, and unmanifested, at any given 'moment' of existence.
what is infinite intelligence doing, is, experiencing and discovering infinity.
therefore, confusing 'the creator', the focus point of infinite intelligence, with infinite intelligence itself, and, infinite intelligence, with infinity itself, would be incorrect.