(10-15-2010, 06:09 PM)unity100 Wrote: if one doesnt know enough about history, s/he shouldnt speak on propaganda s/he have received.
My friend !!! Now why do you have to do these personal attacks? It only helps to reduce the effectiveness of your own message and makes the discussion hostile.
(10-15-2010, 06:09 PM)unity100 Wrote: no need to talk about what the british empire did, during the period of that 'empire'. and only the period in between 1800-1900 too. france, similarly.
These are human ills and no way attributable to the individual based capitalistic system that the founding fathers of America put in place. We all can agree that the history of humanity is full of dreadful things and regardless of the system they will happen.
(10-15-2010, 06:09 PM)unity100 Wrote: this is how rome became an empire. this is how fascist rose to power in 1930s. this is the fence where the united states, and u.k. since last decade, are howering on.
Exactly. The STS powers are always trying to corrupt the principles of any system and we have plenty of examples of that in both systems.
Now once again- I believe that socialist principles are can be applicable in higher density as they essentially stand for the overall common good. But on 3D earth they have a fatal flaw. That is the concentration of power in single group. The American capitalist system tries to overcome this by the separation of powers and check and balances based system. And in my opinion a better system for 3D earth.
(10-15-2010, 11:30 PM)Crimson Wrote: Basic premise is that the monetary system is used not only to gain power but to oppress/enslave. If money (theoretically) could have been used as a "neutral" way to do and exchange goods and services, these times were gone long time ago.
It seems to me, that some users here do not see the correlation of this with the Ra Material: There is an elite, the elite's way to be an elite (3d minions) is to create a "matrix" based on banking and commerce where not even the "socialist" countries can escape --(ideally).
Crimson- I can agree with that more or less. This is an example of the corruption of the capitalist system. Unfortunately the humans are in deep trouble regardless of the system.
I think the way forward is not to try to think of a better system but better ourselves. This will help humanity and us regardless of the system. if we can bring a little light in our own lives and the lives of others regardless of system A, B or C- that is the differences right there we have made. and when the humanity has changed one person at a time an appropriate system would automatically emerge. We would not even have to guess and it would be so obvious to us. At that point we could not care less what system, as we will make any system work with love and wisdom that is uncorrupted.