09-21-2016, 05:21 PM
(09-21-2016, 04:57 PM)Glow Wrote: I'm not really in this debate but I think you must admit things are about perspectives. There are no complete distortion free understandings here.
However stuff like earth being a prison
I'm sorry, the problem was my English. My friend said that Earth is NOT a prision. And so he showed me the H_H material.
(09-21-2016, 04:57 PM)Glow Wrote: and Orion being a consequence of lucifer a rebellion.... Seems less like "light" and more like the human mind grasping at filling in the blanks and creating a storey.
This information is of the Drunvalo's work. It's not a direct consequence but a indirect consequence.
(09-21-2016, 04:57 PM)Glow Wrote: Much like the Ra stuff sometimes there is a lot of unnessisary debris added to the truth.
All Ra really needed to get across is we are all one but humans wanted the rest.
Same as HH saying the dark serves the light, well that's just a restating of we are all one. All truly serving the one. The rest of the HH stuff could similarly be taken as a version of distortion and more just storeys the human want.
We are all one. Serving in different ways that's why there is no wrong path only a path that is more direct. No real need to get hung up on the storey. The point we are one. That's it.
From that it should change your behaviour enough the dogma is nice/entertaining/inspiring but largely irrelevant.
Anyways my two cents. Perhaps worth less than two cents.
I agree. Drunvalo justly said that the way of "not live in unity" is consequence of the Lucifer's Experiment. According with the traditional esoteric philosophies like Teosophy, Gnosis, etc. this can be real.
And another thing. Ra about Lucifer:
Quote:Let us illustrate by observing the relative harmony and unchanging quality of existence in one of your, as you call it, primitive tribes. The entities have the concepts of lawful and taboo, but the law is inexorable and all events occur as predestined. There is no concept of right and wrong, good or bad.
It is a culture in monochrome. In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the mind/body/spirits of this Logos from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment and also provided the impetus to move, to work and to learn.
Those Logoi whose creations have been set up without free will have not, in the feeling of those Logoi, given the Creator the quality and variety of experience of Itself as have those Logoi which have incorporated free will as paramount. Thusly you find those Logoi moving through the timeless states at what you would see as a later space/time to choose the free will character
when elucidating the foundations of each Logos.
Basically the same concept of the H_H message. Ra confirmed that Lucifer is a Logos and that free-will is a catalyst of evolution. Now, if H_H simply copied concepts of The Material Ra or if he was a really Luciferian it's another question. Peace, love and light.