(10-18-2010, 01:20 AM)unity100 Wrote: i very much think that they do. because, for they to come into being in any given octave, they (or whatever causing them to exist) had to exist before the octave in the first place.
also,if as such, it explains the concept of 'focus' and, 'infinite intelligence finding focus, and becoming creator' concepts we are given by Ra; there is stillness in timeless phase, yet, at the start of an octave, the stillness finds a focus point that generates differentiation, bump, a wave, and this focus keep vibrating, distorting, and with its ripples, lesser focuses that are nearby that focus (in any sense possible of being near, or relevant) also appear. and they, in turn generate more vibrations, and the ripples/vibrations they are sending, find lesser focuses, and hence an entire existence comes into being. this also explains the infinite 'co-creator' sequence that goes from the first initial focus, down to thought forms (and probably even deeper). it also explains how everything, conceptually, are the same and have the same basic blueprint (metaphorically) ; we are all ripples/waves vibrating in the stillness of a sea.
a possibility is, the focuses (existing ones, finites, the entire consciousness furball they - us- constitute) go from focus to focus, octave to octave.
intermediate possibilities also can exist - it could be possible that, just like how an entity can change the planets it incarnates, the focuses participating in an octave may join/leave an octave group, ie, a focus group. or then again, they may be tied to and dependent on each other for existence.
I very much like the manner in which you have rephrased all of the above sentiments (as seen in red/bold) in propositional form versus what was previously laid out as grand and sweeping contradictions as though adamant truths and concrete laws which only you were privy to. In other words, you are now asking questions and presenting possibilities as opposed heretofore of making statements that were previously presented as though absolutes which no one in fact has the capacity of knowing. Its the tone that makes the music. Well done.
unity Wrote:this also explains the infinite 'co-creator' sequence that goes from the first initial focus, down to thought forms (and probably even deeper).
the only thing to be discerned here is, does there have to be one first focus, one first 'creator', or, are these focuses (for each individual octave) are more than one, for each octave. and, the central focuses for each octave - are they just 'future' manifestations of an earlier octave's first focus, or, are they timeless, direct manifestations of infinite intelligence.
Given you are in fact making propositions, and doing so by putting them out there in question form, my only friendly question and challenge in an open and like-minded academic exchange would be, your Infinite Co-Creator term. This is a new one. Do you mean to mingle this term infinite co-creator with that of The One Infinite Creator, or are these in fact separate terms? Are you in fact asking if there were Multiple Infinite Co-Creators which presumably manifested from Infinity Unaware, which became aware? If the latter is the case, then once again you are individuating Infinity before Infinity has even individuated, as if separating that which is inseparable, aka Infinity now aware as the One Infinite Creator?
Thank you for the new music. I hope it is intentional, as it plays so much more harmoniously and melodic. If it is intentional, you have un-boxed yourself out of the corner from which you almost had no choice but to defend yourself from so vehemently. Perhaps we may return to the open like-minded academic exchanges of questions versus truths we do not know.
as Sincerely,
~ Q ~