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Still do not agree. Ra refers to seven as "the gateway cycle", so during 7th density a group will not yet have traversed into the next octave.
Ra states in your quote above that they will "become" "one with all" at that level if their efforts are sufficient, so not only would the memory complex still be in tact but they would also be able to act as teachers to lower density groups and walk the universe with "unfettered tread".

But...  how do you reconcile Ra saying that a 7D entity has "no memory, no identity, past, or future," while this Hathor group very specifically names themselves and almost immediately starts talking about their past?  That's absolutely contradictory to Ra's description of 7D.   Ra doesn't say these are things that will come with the Octave, he says that is the state of 7D.  (The Octave\8D involves birthing a new cosmos and is The Creator's own next step in development.)   Also, he never said anything in the materials I'm aware of claiming that 7D entities act as teachers.  The "unfettered tread" line (in 48.10) wasn't said in direct reference to 7D either.

In the meantime, the idea that this Hathor group is using the 12-Density scale that some other channeled entities use allows the claim of them being "7D" to make perfect sense without completely contradicting what we've been told about 7th Density as Ra sees it.  

Or, to put it another way, what reasons do you have for thinking this Hathor group has achieved cosmic oneness aside from the use of "7th Density"...?   Is there something about their message or the contents therein which would lead you to believe they're a level more evolved, wise, and knowing than Ra is?  I mean, we can quibble over Ra's somewhat-obscure wording all day, but that's what this still boils down to.  

What specifically makes you believe Hathor is 7D by Ra's scale?

I have really no idea about Hathor being 7d, I'm just trying to make sense of what has been said. It is my understanding that "no memory, no identity, etc." refers to having crossed into another universe from 7d to 8th. Where there is still some polarity then a bias must still exist, only towards the end of 7th density is this charge worked off, polarity integrated and the threshold into the next octave crossed.
Although I have read only very little of the Hathors they do claim to originate outside of our octave and had entered our universe by way of Sirius and then the etheric realms of venus. Seems to me that if you were 8th density, or had completed your own polarity game then returning to our universe would be a step down into 7d,. The Hathors would be fully aware of the density numbering system used by Ra, so I see no reason for them complicating this or causing confusion.

From 52.12

This octave density of which we have spoken is both omega and alpha, the spiritual mass of the infinite universes becoming one central sun or Creator once again. Then is born a new universe, a new infinity, a new Logos which incorporates all that the Creator has experienced of Itself. In this new octave there are also those who wander. We know very little across the boundary of octave except that these beings come to aid our octave in its Logos completion.

Just could be that the Hathors are Ra's teachers in a similar relationship to Ra and Quetzalcoatl. After all Hathor is regarded as being "the mother of Ra" or "the eye of Ra".

This from:http://www.ancient.eu/Hathor/

Through this association, Hathor came to be regarded as the mother of the sun god Ra and held a prominent place in his barge as it sailed across the night sky, into the underworld, and rose again at dawn. Her name means "Domain of Horus" or "Temple of Horus" which alludes to two concepts. The first allusion is to the part of the sky where the king (or dead king) could be rejuvenated and continue rule (or live again) while the second is to the myth that Horus, as sun god, entered her mouth each night to rest and returned with the dawn. In both cases, her name has to do with re-birth, rejuvenation, inspiration, and light. Her relationship with the sky identified her with Venus, the evening and morning star.

The "Seven Hathors".