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    Thread: Correspondence Between Densities and Traditional Planes of Existence


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    12-07-2016, 08:14 PM
    (12-07-2016, 04:06 PM)Matt1 Wrote: I think part of the problem is that most occultists are basically using a personalized system for mapping the creation. The most common are from Theosophy and some offshoots of that group such as Alice Baily. I recall Ra basically corresponding the first 3 energy centers to different states of physical being, Red being elemental, Orange being the physical without consciousness awareness of self and the yellow being a self aware being.

    In my opinion, this is just one small aspect of these rays. The first couple of rays definitely have an orientation towards the physical or tangible world, but they can manifest in other realms as well. For example, when they spoke of ghosts they talked about orange and yellow ray activations after death. And even red ray is not wholly physical (in the sense that we ordinarily conceptualize physical) as part of the red ray cycle is learning to *become* space/time, as it dwells in timeless chaos in the beginning. That's one of the lessons of its consciousness in its density.

    (12-07-2016, 04:06 PM)Matt1 Wrote: The green ray being the astral plane, the blue ray being the devachanic , the indigo being the etheral (which seems to be the the most shocking of all as most people correspond the etheric plane as the plane above physical reality, on the tree of life this is Yesod) The buddic plane being the violet ray.

    Yes, the occult terminology can be very confusing, which is why I think it is important to spend a considerable amount of time getting a visceral intuitive feeling of the "vibrational texture" (for lack of better word) of each of the rays (and associated planes). Then you don't have to rely on the confusing occult nomenclature which get assigned and resigned to various levels based on the intellectual whims of various teachers.

    (12-07-2016, 04:06 PM)Matt1 Wrote: I find some of the terminology quite confusing in some regards such as different levels of the astral, being lower, middle and high, this seems to be a little bit overly detailed? Considering most people don't normally have conscious awareness of the astral plane, unless this is to suggest the level of adeptship being that the various occult adepts are truly beyond the standard scope of awareness.

    Yeah, I thought that was an overly detailed response as well when I first read the Ra material and they spoke of lower/middle/higher astral planes. In retrospect, I appreciate that they went to that place of seemingly over detail because it made me ask a lot of questions to myself about *why* they would do that. It's honestly one of my favorite things about the Ra material -- how Ra would inadvertently answer a question by giving extraneous details that were simultaneously both bizarre and yet you got a sort of otherworldly sense it was absolutely dead true as well. I think one of the reasons they went to that extra nuance of detail in regards the astral planes is partially due to the fact that there is a relatively large difference between the lower, middle, and higher astral planes. Like, they might as well be completely different realms (in fact, in my opinion they kinda are). It is only the arbitrary occult nomenclature that gives them a superficial degree of similarity. They could just as well have been named: yesod, netzach, and tiperath (these are just random attributions as an example) and then we would see them as different realms rather than "astral planes" (which tends to make one conceptualize them as all the same "thing").  To be fair, they do share a lot of similarities with each other (referring to the lower/middle/higher astral) but the differences are pronounced as well -- similar to the differences between the consciousness of animals and human beings and 4D aliens. All the planes are essentially "spheres of attention". Even the physical. Similarities? Yes. Differences? Yes, also.

    (12-07-2016, 04:06 PM)Matt1 Wrote: On a personal level i find it interesting to note that it might be worth while to simply have a physical plane and the astral plane? That way a realistic approach to occultism may be practiced, with a goal in mind of consciously accessing the inner planes through the discipline of occultism and being back concrete experiences. This calls to mind Ra's structure of the mind, the conscious, the racial mind and the cosmic mind. The practice being meditation to still the conscious mind enough to access the akashic records/astral.

    I think that simple binary approach would be good for someone just starting out, but after a time, you can't help but notice different levels and nuances of vibration or texture. It is like leafing through a book with your eyes closed, and at first your hands aren't sensitive enough to detect the individual fine cut pages, so you inadvertently grab multiple pages at a time when you go to flip them, and then after a time, you eventually begin to develop the sensitivity required to feel each individual split and feel the place where each page parts. That's a rough analogy, but it fits fairly well.
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    Correspondence Between Densities and Traditional Planes of Existence - by Infinite - 09-21-2016, 06:58 PM
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    RE: Correspondence Between Densities and Traditional Planes of Existence - by anagogy - 09-22-2016, 06:11 AM
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    RE: Correspondence Between Densities and Traditional Planes of Existence - by Infinite - 03-29-2019, 08:11 AM
    RE: Correspondence Between Densities and Traditional Planes of Existence - by anagogy - 03-29-2019, 05:15 PM
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    RE: Correspondence Between Densities and Traditional Planes of Existence - by anagogy - 03-30-2019, 11:38 PM
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    RE: Correspondence Between Densities and Traditional Planes of Existence - by Infinite - 05-12-2019, 06:45 PM
    RE: Correspondence Between Densities and Traditional Planes of Existence - by anagogy - 05-13-2019, 04:12 AM
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