The Dream Thread

[OpalE]

it makes you realise that this 'reality' that we are all sharing, is just the result of consistent (and persistent) data points that are being presented to our conscious mind.  It's definitely 'real'; but hey, all other dreams/imaginations/scenarios are just as 'real' in terms of emotional and qualitative content. 

I had an argument vaguely related to this earlier today. He was dismissing something on the grounds that it was neither "scientific nor logical."

Something about the way he grouped the two together pushed a button. I started spewing. Paraphrased:

"They are NOT the same thing. Objective empiricism is NOT the same as logic. First one says a thing isn't real unless its out there where everyone else can measure it. I don't believe that at all. Subjective experience is no less 'real' just because it can't be shared and measured by the masses. Logic says, first and foremost, that personal experience is the prime determinant of reality. Almost the opposite ..."

There was more, but it becomes less relevant.

Not sure why i felt compelled to put this here, but there it is =P.

i felt so certain i was co-creating this dream with the person i was with. in the dream i somehow knew that they too were in bed asleep & dreaming this exact same scene that i was dreaming. (whether or not that was actually the case i don't know...& i really doubt it.)

This is very possible. Favorite example i have is an old dream in which i visited my mother. I was crawling in through her window to say hi, and she storms in with a yellow super-soaker and starts shooting bubbles at me, screaming.

Thought nothing of it; almost forgot it. Few days later, mother describes the same dream on the phone. Same house, same events in the same sequence, identical "geography." In her dream, though, i was "a demon trying to get into the house" and the super-soaker was a shot-gun. Also, we had the dream two full nights apart.

Once the initial doubt is broken it will happen a lot. If you can confirm it with other believers it will happen almost constantly. Everyone comes back through the fog independently, though, so most of the time only a few participants will remember; i don't know if the time distortion has to do with me personally or dream-sharing in general, but nearly all of my shared dreams happen different nights than the people i share them with ... haven't noticed any more than 2wks apart though (usually closer to 2 days).