10-26-2010, 05:44 AM
(10-25-2010, 02:47 PM)thefool Wrote: My friend Ali !!! I don't mean to pick on you and the only reason I picked to reply to your post is that I found it to be most reasonable and open position. I wanted to have a conversation with someone open and willing to listen to another perspective. And I find you are that person. I apologize for any misunderstanding this might have caused you.
I believe Gemini is having a subjective experience.
I believe he is looking for some support and confirmation.
I believe we are that loving supporting group in a position to help him.
I believe he has not asked anyone to believe him and start taking this as gospel.
I believe if we don't resonate with his message then we should ask questions. If we still don't understand it then should ignore it. But not criticize him or suggest him being an impostor for posting this. He has a lengthy track records here on the site and this is the first time we noticed something like this. So we should be more compassionate and understanding.
I believe some people have been just too harsh on him. (not you)
I believe that we can do better than that.
You asked for my position the fool, so I will present it..
I have asked questions just like many others. I started by asking questions. Most questions were ignored. Every time we ask a question Gemini keeps coming back with more random incoherent bits of his story.
I analyzed the situation 3 days ago. You remember because you objected to this then. I gave 4 possible situations. Either he was lying, and making fun of us. Or he had broken through in understanding, in which case he would be very able to respond and clarify his situation to us. Or he broke through and doesn't understand which means psychotherapeutic assistance is required. Or finally the option I gave most attention too: he's having a subjective experience which he understands instinctively but that is not linked to our shared worlds. That was my guess at that point.
Gemini as the initiator of this discussion has the responsibility to clarify himself. Answer the questions. If he has no intent to clarify himself.. Why should I intend to understand him? He's not mad, he's sane enough to type coherent sentences. I also know him as intelligent and strong. There's no reason for him to avoid answering the questions.
We also have to remain critical and discerning. So yes, considering that I get no information from him even after request, and his story is quite messy and extraordinary in certain places, and I have no reason to assume he's gone mad, I do question his integrity. Gemini still has the ability to respond and explain his position and I can still change my mind about that. But what choice am I given really? Here's a guy who claims he's dead and turned into God... (Which cut down on the cost of living quite a bit if you ignore the 5d fines.)
I've seen people's hair color change over the duration of an evening going from black to red. I've seen people grow fangs in a period of weeks. I've met a child soldier from western europe who's had bullet and other wounds to show. I've seen people switch between past life alters. And I've met therianthropes, whose behavior and abilities really made them a halfway point between humans and animals. (That guy really weirded me out.) I've met a few spiritual adepts and seen them do crazy stuff, and I even had the pleasure to meet some fairies.
I'm not in the habit of just disbelieving something because it sounds crazy. The difference is that each of them has been willing and able to supply me with evidence, to show me their abilities or peculiarities, and to answer my questions. I'm not that hard to convince, I believe in the subjective experience because I'm having it myself. I however need to be able to discern between a troll and a honest man.
As far as I am concerned the ball is in Gemini's court. My faith in his integrity is damaged. And that was only to be expected. Ask him to tell this story to his colleagues and I'll seem very mellow and gullible in comparison. But my faith is not beyond repair, all I need is some answers.