How to forgive yourself.

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a great reply there Agua.  Thanks!

I absolutely agree, i just didnt dare to say this. Ultimately, each blame one puts on others, each judgement one puts on others is at the root blaming oneself and selfjudgement.
We are not willing and able to face it in ourselves, so we deny it it, supress it and then project it onto others.
So, forgoving other-self is forgiving self.
As long as we dont forgive ourselves on the other hand, we cannot forgive others, for the same reason.

Either there is guilt or there is no guilt, either all beings are innocent or no being is innocent.

Absolutely.  At the end of the day, the mind is a self-reflexive instrument, in that the thoughts and actions within it, also act upon itself.

As in a quote that has been attributed to the Buddha:



and, of course, one just can't say to oneself that one can't (or shouldn't be angry); if anger/frustration arises, that's fine.  It's then processing that feedback which yields metaphysical and self understanding.

I fully agree, but again didnt really dare to say this here.
I , too, found, that when i would reach the deepest layer of any emotion (or issue) in this life (in childhood, baby phase or even embryonic states) i would find it more often than not has its actual root in otherlifetimes.
However, most of the "work" can be done in this life's issues (in my current understanding, we "select" our early experiences to ensure we have "actualized" all issues we want to work on in this life.
Some would still be unresolvable without integrating "past" lives.

I agree here as well.  In fact, I think it's quite profound what you mentioned about selecting our earlier experiences and actualizing them in consciousness.

I just compare the similiar environment that me and my younger brother (by 2 years) grew up in.  Even though many of the events were the same, we took away different emotional responses.  That can only really be attributed to former biases being 're-engaged'.  It's like it was very easy to form a particular 'interpretation' because the groundwork for that interpretation was just waiting to be 're-energised'.

I basically would see it like that. I would expand on the "etc" which would be a lot of means like medicine plants, various chemical substances, tranceinducing means (using no substances).
Additionally, and this would be very important (for me at least), the doors to these states would open more and more if we continously "work" on our issues, thus gaining trust, strenght, courage and stability.

Those four i would consider crucial. The only reason those deep issues stay unaccessable are the lack of trust, courage (to face and stand unpleasant emotions which are overwhelming), strenght ( in the sense of being able to bear these high energies), and stability ( there would possibly arise deep issues which render one "unfunctional" in daily life).

If these are developed over time, one would not need substances, altered states and so on.

That's very elegantly stated.  It definitely demonstrates a very sincere and investigated approach.

So if I could contrast your positive qualities, with some opposites, it may help elucide those character traits.

Courage/avoidance: avoidance being seen as an easier route for the mind, in many many situations

Strength/fear: fear of having one's identity being subjected to disintegrating or overwhelming emotions

Stability/non-opportunity: non-opportunity in lacking the means in time or method

Trust/skepticism: I'm reminded of a quote from Ra, in 42.12. "The entire activity can only occur when there exists faith that an outcome of this discipline is possible."

Oh, i forgot, there are some breathing techniques which are really killer in helping digging for buried stuff. Only one of those would be holotropic breathing.

And, to get back to forgivesness. Ultimately forgiveness comes, when one reaches the deepest cor, because one would realize: there is nothing to forgive.

In many cases, the 'perceived separation' that necessitates the process of 'forgiveness' was just based on a misunderstanding/miscomprehension of the original situation.  Once that is 'seen' for what it was, then it's true: there is no place for forgiveness, if one no longer perceives separation between the self and the other.