(01-18-2017, 05:22 PM)BlatzAdict Wrote:(01-18-2017, 02:06 PM)Minyatur Wrote: If one day you do happen to commit suicide (not saying you should either). Know it's well, it's fine, it isn't selfish, it won't get back to you. It'd be a step in your seeking of love and peace and for which your duty would then become to find understanding and love for yourself on why it happened this way.
I think to advise you otherwise than seeking to love and understand yourself would only result in greater wounds to your soul if you were pushed down that path, so I rather say that whatever you do, seek to be at peace most you can with your choices and all will be well.
"69.6 Questioner: Do I understand, then, that death, whether it is by natural means or accidental death or suicide, all deaths of this type would create the same after-death condition which would avail an entity to its protection from friends? Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. We presume you mean to inquire whether in the death experience, no matter what the cause, the negative friends are not able to remove an entity. This is correct largely because the entity without the attachment to the space/time physical complex is far more aware and without the gullibility which is somewhat the hallmark of those who love wholeheartedly.
However, the death, if natural, would undoubtedly be the more harmonious; the death by murder being confused and the entity needing some time/space in which to get its bearings, so to speak; the death by suicide causing the necessity for much healing work and, shall we say, the making of a dedication to the third density for the renewed opportunity of learning the lessons set by the higher self."
just cause minyataur doesn't know what he is talking about.... "the death by suicide causing the necessity for much healing work and, shall we say, the making of a dedication to the third density for the renewed opportunity of learning the lessons set by the higher self."
again suicide is a one way ticket back to third density. do not kill yourself because you had to literally beg and wait in a long ling to incarnate on this planet you call Earth.
i remember that line and i penetrated the forgetting. Mark my words, you just don't remember being on that line.
I stand by my initial point, fear-based mentalities and the inducing of guilt like your previous post did, does add to the healing work that you mentionned.
What does this mean? Say someone you know kills itself and let's say there's 3 scenarios.
Scenario 1 you didn't inject your polarity within the event and only the person's own polarity is now relevant about the extent to which it can hurt itself in the process or not.
Scenario 2, you've shown acceptance of this person's choice because you sought understanding and as such helped the person be more at peace with the act which reduces the potential of hurting itself in the process.
Scenario 3, you've been rejecting of where this person was at and induced fear and guilt which failed at imposing control over the person. Now the person died in a greater struggle, feeling more torn apart and through this hurt itself in greater ways.
What's my point? Inducing fear and guilt is hardly positive.
I do agree the Ra quote is what is true in most circumstances, because usually someone kill themselves out of being torn emotionally. Yet, if done with calm heart and mind, then I disagree that it necessarily mean to damage your soul and can simply be a way to move on from this place.
This is a somewhat rarer case but it is said ascended masters choose the moment of their death and this is exactly what I intend to do, although I don't intend to end my beingness here through a physical mean but through spiritual awareness that I never was truly bound here. Which basicly, remains a form of suicide as it implies conscious dissolution of the mind/body/spirit complex.
Btw, natural death can also contains many regrets and create a need to renew a 3D experience, so like I said relativity. Acceptance seek to accept how another is, rejection seek to change them to your own views.
So what is it that I'd want to offer the person (Kaaron in this case)? That all is well. So that if they end up doing it, maybe they'll have been a bit more at peace in their act. And if they don't, then maybe that they learned to be acceptant of their own desire of it, which makes it easier to find love for themselves. Nothing is overcome, everything is understandable, everything is beautiful.
So Kaaron, all is well and you are a marvelous and perfect soul and it brings me joy to know that at a certain time you will have healed all that you have to heal within yourself. The path is your own just like ours are our own. There is nothing to judge, we all are in your shoes feeling what you feel and choosing alongside you. This is Unity. Still, based on everything you said (outside my more general view) I think you do desire to live on more than not and as such I wish you to find peace within this lifetime rather than outside.