04-15-2009, 06:47 AM
Dear Wintersun,
Experience taught me that if you mention a rational explanation around people who decided they had a spiritual experience you don't usually get the friendly and open response you gave me. Usually I become the totally close minded critic.. Even IF I claim to be from another planet on another topic.. :-/
I have a tendency to always end up in the opposing corner paradoxally because I try to find the middle path. But that means to everyone on the left that I am on the right. And that means to everyone on the right that I am in the left. Which is why I pick my words more carefully these days. And like I said, I don't intend to discourage. Only to advance understanding by adding my own two cents.
I fully agree with you.. Matter and spirit are two sides of the same medal. There is only one. However there are two ways of looking at this one object.
One of these ways of looking at it slows down the wild conclusions, the other suggests it. For some reason most people who remember past lives have been kings, priestesses, or are from atlantis. Preferably both. People feel a tingle on their earlobe and believe their long dead grandmother is talking to them. They burn a candle, and the light flickers, ergo their spell has been heard. Worse, the candle goes out, so the only logical explanation is a ghost... right?
Wrong
the other logical explanation is that the soul remembers how the psychic life works, and the imagination pretends it is already here.
I know, from a distance, this girl who must be 20 about now. She is exceptionally bright and focussed. And she was this when she was 13. She did not hide her focus properly and at 13 she actually had 40 year old groupies. Which was fun at first but caused her suffering later on when they refused to understand she needed to be a girl and not a guru. Because they had all their complicated 40 year old issues projected on her they stopped seeing her for what she was. Because every itch or tarot card indicated what they wanted to see. Not what they saw.
And while this girl truly is special. I've met her and she literally went inside of me to grab the things she was curious after. But she's a child, how was she supposed to be the answer to their questions?
While I believe all experience, including the imagined, is real. I do not believe all of it is relevant to our current experience. And it's better to simplify, and not complicate our lives. Discernment is key. It is vital. It is knowing where you're going.
Especially if you want to explore your psychic self it is important to discern between the real and the imagined. Which in the end boils down to seeing the difference between the important and the unimportant.
If you sit down to practice any form of psychic art you tend to get what they disrespectfully call the brain farts. Mine are purple flashes in my peripheral vision. I call it a brain fart which is similar to aching muscles after sports. Only on the mental plane. Nice to know you're doing something. But not exactly the end goal.
Pleased to meet you
Experience taught me that if you mention a rational explanation around people who decided they had a spiritual experience you don't usually get the friendly and open response you gave me. Usually I become the totally close minded critic.. Even IF I claim to be from another planet on another topic.. :-/
I have a tendency to always end up in the opposing corner paradoxally because I try to find the middle path. But that means to everyone on the left that I am on the right. And that means to everyone on the right that I am in the left. Which is why I pick my words more carefully these days. And like I said, I don't intend to discourage. Only to advance understanding by adding my own two cents.
I fully agree with you.. Matter and spirit are two sides of the same medal. There is only one. However there are two ways of looking at this one object.
One of these ways of looking at it slows down the wild conclusions, the other suggests it. For some reason most people who remember past lives have been kings, priestesses, or are from atlantis. Preferably both. People feel a tingle on their earlobe and believe their long dead grandmother is talking to them. They burn a candle, and the light flickers, ergo their spell has been heard. Worse, the candle goes out, so the only logical explanation is a ghost... right?
Wrong
the other logical explanation is that the soul remembers how the psychic life works, and the imagination pretends it is already here.I know, from a distance, this girl who must be 20 about now. She is exceptionally bright and focussed. And she was this when she was 13. She did not hide her focus properly and at 13 she actually had 40 year old groupies. Which was fun at first but caused her suffering later on when they refused to understand she needed to be a girl and not a guru. Because they had all their complicated 40 year old issues projected on her they stopped seeing her for what she was. Because every itch or tarot card indicated what they wanted to see. Not what they saw.
And while this girl truly is special. I've met her and she literally went inside of me to grab the things she was curious after. But she's a child, how was she supposed to be the answer to their questions?
While I believe all experience, including the imagined, is real. I do not believe all of it is relevant to our current experience. And it's better to simplify, and not complicate our lives. Discernment is key. It is vital. It is knowing where you're going.
Especially if you want to explore your psychic self it is important to discern between the real and the imagined. Which in the end boils down to seeing the difference between the important and the unimportant.
If you sit down to practice any form of psychic art you tend to get what they disrespectfully call the brain farts. Mine are purple flashes in my peripheral vision. I call it a brain fart which is similar to aching muscles after sports. Only on the mental plane. Nice to know you're doing something. But not exactly the end goal.
Pleased to meet you