(02-19-2017, 02:39 PM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: Well, your path is your own, so please don't think I'm pushing too hard here. But just to make a couple notes...
Oh no, don't go thinking you are pushing anything. In fact, I like it very much when people are trying to make a point that is different than mine. Could be an eye-opener so please don't refrain !
Quote:This is third-density thinking, and it really doesn't apply to the other side. These behaviors you're describing are basically one way of compensating for the complete uncertainty of life under the veil. But when the veil is lifted, for example, deception becomes extremely difficult. An entity's energies are as plain to "see" in higher densities as the color of a person's skin or hair on Earth. Furthermore, with access to Intelligent Infinity, almost all potential outcomes can be known, if someone wishes to know them.
Basically, there really isn't a need to be a "control freak" when one isn't veiled.
Well are you sure ? The Seth material seems to say something different imo. For instance, it says that if you don't believe in afterlife then you will be very disorientated when you get there. You migh cling on to your body or you might self-create somekind of hell.
If you believe that you will go to heaven then you will create it for you, same for hell, etc
This content does not match with your 'when the veil is lifted, you are no longer limited by your previous conception of things'
I mean, if lifting the veil was really putting everyone on the same level where they are not impaired by their subjectivity and beliefs, then everyone would have the same experience more or less. Our 'character' would not impact the experience at all.
Again, the idea of self created hallucinations and experience does not match with the idea of a 'veil lift' that would liberate you from all your subjectivity.
Do you not agree ? If the lift of the veil was so thorough, then it wouldn't leave room for self-created hallucinations based on earthly beliefs. Or maybe I'm missing something.
Quote:Well, I see where you're coming from. But perhaps it would be better to work towards mitigating your fears instead of merely trying to work around them? You're effectively talking about addressing the symptoms but not the disease, so to speak. And the problem with the sort of afterlife you're talking about is that it would still be one more illusion on top of the whole stack of illusions. Having spent time constructing an afterlife for yourself -even if it worked out as you intended- you'd still have to then break out of it again to continue on towards new realms\experiences\etc.
Personally, I'd just as soon skip that step, if I can.
Well, I'm just being honest with myself because I know I can't get rid of all my problems, I'm only a stupid human so for me getting rid of all my problems is totally out of reach. I'm just being realistic and saying I can't achieve ultimate wisdom or control over my fears in this life. And btw I actually do my fair share of psychotherapy and other hypnosis sessions. Of course I can improve things, but not to the point where I won't be impaired by anything when I die (especially if I get to die tomorrow).
Contrary to you, and that's actually surprising because I usually like to skip steps, I am totally happy with creating some nice illusions for me to rest in and enjoy pure love. Once again, I'm just being realistic and I'm saying that I'm still very, very far away from some kind of ultimate stage. Basically, I think I'm hardly starting here so for me it would be an utopia to think I can skip lots of stages and get to the end right away.
Now, I also want to have productive afterlife of course and once again it would seem that preparation and planning is important so that I get an idea of what I want to do when I get there (examine my life, create wisdom, help to gather information, help overall advancement).
Once again, if lifting the veil and accessing unlimited intelligence was so thorough, then there wouldn't be any need for more experience and reincarnations, don't you think ? We would just die, access ultimate wisdom and that would be it, no ?
"Your rate of learning depends entirely upon you, however. Limited, dogmatic, or rigid concepts of good and evil can hold you back. Too narrow ideas of the nature of existence can follow you through several lives if you do not choose to be spiritually and psychically flexible."